TP and other... "stuff"...

"Lamb's ears work great for tp - softer even than TP!"

Yeah but they kick and squirm too much and they REALLY dont like it

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The bidet sounds to me like the truly cleaner choice.
TP may be something we're familiar with but when you really think about it, it's just gross, and certainly doesn't remove the germs from your nether parts. AND your hands get messy sometimes when using TP. You're gonna have to get up and wash your hands anyway, why not just do it all right there on the pot, and include your shiny clean bum?

I have to question the comment about soap and water not killing e coli?
If that's the fact, then why do all our hospitals and restaurants take pains to enforce hand washing? The research I've read says plain soap and water cleans your hands as well as any of the dangerous antibacterial soaps.


About TP being the environmentally sound choice....
I think quite a bit of water is used in the manufacture of it. Plus you have to consider the resources to transport it, and then the packaging to be disposed of...
It may be the better choice form someone living in the NM deserts, but I disagree that this holds true for the average household elsewhere.

Thank you for the handheld bidet suggestion, bare. We'll be installing one
very soon.

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Thank you for the laugh. I'm still giggling at the visual.

Nikki

It was a rough life in those days. It's also impolite in the Arab world to offer the left hand in greeting, because in a land without paper, that hand is reserved for certain hygenic necessities.

didnt anyone use cloth diapers--with a seperate disposable square inside the diaper?usually just a scrap of a old worn out diaper--then, it was easy to just toss the little square out--with most of the nasty stuff on it. course, with my first 2, i believed mamma--rinse, wash, boil--all this on stovetop--and wrinse twice more before hanging out on the line--manys the time i scrubbed them on a washboard, and hung on the line in freezing weather--talk about raw chapped hands!! and tho i'm well past the time, i remember using-and washing cloths for that time of the month--i remember having to walk 2 miles the time the school bus taking us to high school broke down--and how i had big blisters on the inside of my legs from the "cloths". i remember too, saving my lunch money so i could buy tampons--untill the day the clerk said "little girl, does your mamma know youre buying these?" i felt so humiliated-- no, if you can think of it now--its been done in the past-

Here's a link to an article about what women used for sanitary napkins in the old days.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/burris57.html

Maggie

Minnikin, we have two of the hand-held bidets (mini-showers) and just love them and know you will too. We first heard about them on this Forum. It's also handy for spraying the toilet bowl if there should be any spatters. So much more sanitary than a brush. As far as the cloth diapers, they were usually hung out in the sunshine to dry and sunshine has a disinfecting action. I can't imagine anyone having two washing machines in order to use one just for diapers!

Yes, thanks for the visual of this one! Truely Bad!!! I immediately send it on to my cousin who raises sheep! LOL

LQ

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"There is no such thing as bad weather, only inadequate clothing." D. Duck

When there is discussion along this topic, I always wonder about the men, women and children that traveled by covered wagon for miles and miles, out across the plains. I always wondered how the heck they did it and saved their dignity... If there were a tp shortage; you can believe the American people will come up quickly with some alternatives. We have a lot of large leafed mullien growing around here and might use that if the situation proved necessary. Otherwise, I don't want to think about running out of tp...yikes!

Think about what you wrote for a second. It's washing not disinfecting. They are trying to not spread germs by sending them down the drain. And yes one soap will clean as well as the next, the antibacterial stuff is supposed to kill anything possibly left. How I'm not sure if you're washing your hands so poorly. No idea why people are washing their hands so poorly that it was a needed 'upgrade' either.

As for tp. I have at least 100 rolls in reserve.

If you weren't using TP and didn't have a bidet, Hears The Water has a great plan. Using flannel squares (or other materials you might have on hand) would be a workable option. Keep something like a diaper pail nearby, soak the soiled cloths in water or rinse out in the toilet like they used to do with cloth diapers, place in another bucket with soapy water and bleach, then wash in the washing machine (or by hand).

Having hankerchiefs around to replace kleenex would be wise. And rags to replace paper towels would work.

Sssarawolf pointed out in the past that clean rags would work as bandages for wounds too.