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09/16/06, 08:53 AM
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We have a Montana brand tractor and LOVE IT. It a Model #3840 - 38 HP, 4 wheel drive, 4c Mitsubishi diesel w/ industrial tires & front loader. $17K 3 years 0% intrest. We also got a 5' brush hog and box blade when we purchased it. We want more implements for it but are waiting on finances. DH uses the heck out of it and is quite rough sometimes. He has spent MANY days just pushing trees down and digging up stumps with it. That thing will actually CLIMB trees! So far no problems except DH losing pins and keepers in all these trees. LOL
Now, my Dad OTOH has a Farm Pro ($14K) w/ canopy. 2WD, 3cylinder, 20something Hp, I think. He has had to take it back to the shop 3 times in the first year. Now, his is smaller than ours to be sure, but he can't seem to do near the things with his as we can, but his is used mostly for brush hogging his pastures. So far his major complaint was how uncomfortable the seat was! I guess for his "light" use it's just fine for him, but it would NEVER hold up to use at our place!
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09/16/06, 05:59 PM
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We got the Montana also, 4940. I found the extra power and frame weight worth the extra $2k to me. No problems to mention so far. We priced the similar NH and MF & JD 49~50 hp utility tractors and went with a price several $k less, with two service dealers in area. Didn't buy the implements, found those to be less expensive used. Don't have the FEL yet, that was just too expensive ($4k). I'll need to find another source for that.
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09/16/06, 08:47 PM
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I saw a little tractor ther udder night
It was painted a Allis (sorda) orange, and on its side, in what looked like 1in thick letters was the name WOODY. Well, I thought, Id sure like to be driving a WOODY, but I guess thats a topic for Singletree. Anyway. Whos making that tractor??
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09/17/06, 10:49 AM
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Location: western pa
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We are into oil country tubing manufacture and supply, and we do lab testing on our competition.Russian steel tends to be very inferior. But the Chinese is worse, besides the heat treating is terrible.They obviously guess at the chemical content, NOT accurate at all!( I'm a metalurgical chemist)
Our customers claim as they get casing under ground it tends to break and the Chinese just ignore them.So we get a lot of former chinese buyers back!
Cheap isn't allways the way to go
Dirty steel tends to break and bad heat treating will wear too soon.
NO I WOULD NOT BUY CHINESE ANYTHING!!!!!
Chas
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09/17/06, 06:25 PM
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Location: Bartow County, GA
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Everyone I've talked to says those Chinese tractors are "throw away" tractors. But, then, we're a disposable society right?
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09/17/06, 08:42 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Have had my Mahinda 30 hp diesel for a year now, one electrical problem, dealer (was a John Deere dealer selling them) sent out a mech, (1 hr drive one way) and fixed it on Monday. Problem happened on sat.
So far I love it.
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09/17/06, 08:57 PM
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Chinese stuff is garbage-I learned the hard way-bought a 8kw gen from Hardy diesel-what a POS.Paid 3995 with a murphy remote start-never could remote start because it would'nt-spent 5600.00 in parts and 2000hrs of my labor to keep POS running for my offgrid home.Had 3 PROFESSIONAL diesel mechanics come up and ALL refused to work on it,they said parts were of such LOW quality,they in good conscience could not charge me for something that was just going to break down again.Hardy was NO help,their parts are outrageously priced...I found Newilini Int sold the exact same parts for 1/4 the price-same part numbers,etc....I got REAL SMART and bought a 12.5kw Isuzu gen with a 5yr/5000hr 100% written warranty and I'm HAPPY-DON'T BUY CHINESE JUNK...
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09/17/06, 09:16 PM
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Location: SouthEastern Illinois
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Originally Posted by mightybooboo
I've learned my Chinese lesson at Wally World.
Sure wouldn't buy a Chinese vehicle.
Thanks for the evaluation Mitch.
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Originally Posted by deaconjim
I wouldn't expect much out of something built by slave labor.
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I totally agree with the Above, pay little now, pay ALOT latter!
Don't skimp on $$$ on non consumable items!!!!
Never support slave labor!!
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09/17/06, 10:21 PM
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We've had a few Belarus tractors (Russia) and while they served us well, I agree the steel quality was always a sore point. We still have a seed drill and maure spreaders built by Belarus and they seem to be pretty good, but if Chinese steel is worse than Russian then run don't walk away! That said I have issues with Ford's center steering arm in my Ford 6600 tractor. We're on #4? Might have that problem licked but I'm not counting on it. Wish it was a hydrostatic steering system.
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09/18/06, 10:52 AM
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It is a world market now, so even the names you trust are being built in different countries, or at least parts are.
I was working on a cooler for the elect. controls on a machine that was making gearbox housings for Case, at their plant.
Sign on Case workers tool box read; "I thought a Chinese junk was a ship, Fiat says it's a casting"! (Case/New holland is owned by Fiat)
They have closed the foundry in that complex, so where do the castings come from?
Sooo, I was working on a German cooler, with a compressor from Holland ( I had to order it), on an Italian machine, milling Chinese casting, for a Case tractor, for Fiat!
Go figure!
Now I go buy dealer back-up, warranty, price and looking up owner comments.
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09/19/06, 09:31 AM
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Location: East central WI
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I drive a Pontiac.
Built by Toyota.
In California.
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