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Old 08/04/06, 01:37 AM
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sharpened rebar stakes pounded into the trails would tick them off. cover them with leaves. tires get to be expensive.

or, better yet, block the trails but leave obvious escape routes around the barracade and put the rebar there.
How about large nails in boards that are concealed would that do it?
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Old 08/04/06, 08:02 AM
 
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I have found, after months of destruction , signs put up, signs torn down, etc., that a box of old style metal simplex nails used to secure tar paper to roof sheeting are quite effective. I have a rolling pickup magnet as used on construction sites, so the cleanup is pretty simple. I would have rather handled it in a better manner, but it worked quite well. Since the sherriff is of no use out here I am left to deal with the problem as are other landowners in the area.
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Old 08/04/06, 10:38 AM
 
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what does it matter if they're hurting anything?

private property is just that....private
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Old 08/04/06, 11:17 AM
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The problem with spikes is that if you have livestock or allow horses to cross your property then you may injure them. You may also injure wildlife.

I don't think wire at neck level would constitute murder. Manslaughter at most. It would be hard to prove that the wire was intended to kill rather than deter.

I think signs might be a deterrent for honest folk. If you are worried about dishonest folk, then something along the lines of 'private hunt club. do not enter. stray bullet hazard.' and then shooting off a few large-caliber blanks whenever you hear ATV noise, might be a workable trick.

You might also find out if there is ATV 'habitat' that these people are migrating to from other ATV 'habitat'. If your land is the quickest route between two BLM ATV sites or private ATV parks, then your best bet might be to make a designated ATV path from site A to B with appropriate warnings so you aren't liable if they hurt themselves, and a prohibition from leaving the designated path.

This behavior is mind-boggling to me, because when I was a kid we used to ride horses across other people's land only when we had permission or when the route was a generally-accepted route not posted against tresspassing. There was, for example, a defunct county road along the bottom of someone's property along a creekbed and old quarry, that connected a horsey neighborhood with a livery stable that had about 500 acres of riding trails backing onto a county park. It just wasn't thinkable to deviate off that trail into the guys property, even though it wasn't posted against trespassing. All the horse community there knew that the guy was afraid of liability and so everyone respected his wishes.

Talking to the kid was good because that might help get the word out that the ATV's are unwelcome (as if you didn't know that... ) . A letter to the local paper also might help bring attention to the issue, especially if the newspaper can do a feature on where ATV's are allowed so that new riders know where to go.

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Old 08/04/06, 11:24 AM
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I think signs might be a deterrent for honest folk. If you are worried about dishonest folk, then something along the lines of 'private hunt club. do not enter. stray bullet hazard.' and then shooting off a few large-caliber blanks whenever you hear ATV noise, might be a workable trick.
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LOL Id forgotten That Id posted well shot targets at strategic places around my property
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Old 08/04/06, 05:53 PM
 
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I think if they get close enuf and won,t stop,or just tease you..How about paintball.If the place is posted and they came on anyway..do you think they would go report you for hitting them with paintball?I beleive that would be less harmful than spiking or clotheslining them.
They would have to admit deliberate trespass.Just my 2 cents..No need to hurt anyone..Just make sure its well posted..
I had a dirt road in front of my place and a snowmobile trail behind..The snowmobile trial was sanctioned by the gov and had police patrols for drunk drivers etc..It stretched for hundreds of miles with connecting trials..My neighbours kids..teens..would use my driveway to tear down and get to the trail.When ever I tried to approach them they would litterally drive circles around me and taunt and laugh..I even put a gate up so they couldn,t access the trail via my property.They just drove around it..I ended up piling a huge pile of branches and brush on their new sidetrail and one day when they were back there and saw me coming witgh the shotgun.They hit the gas and when they rounded the corner..they hit the pile..Machines smashed and a heck of alot of swearing going on but by the time I got there they had dragged thier machine to the public trail and was walking home...They never came back.
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