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08/01/06, 04:13 PM
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Could it be possible that the caffeine in Mountain Dew raises the animal's blood pressure and thus enabling the posion to work faster thru the system? Just a thought.
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08/01/06, 04:14 PM
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Here is a link to the government-required materials safety data sheet for the blue fly bait. Note the symptoms of exposure for people and the antidote (atropine, which is itself nasty stuff).
http://www.plunketts.net/bluestreak-m.htm
A way to remember the symptoms is SLUD--salivation, lacrimation, urination, defication-->drooling crying peeing pooping.
We have racoons in my suburb. I'm glad they're not much trouble here. But we don't keep lifestock.
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08/01/06, 04:19 PM
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If you have enough Mountain Dew, you can also kill raccoons by drowning them in it.
Of course, you have to catch them first. And they do kick, scratch and bite a bit.
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08/01/06, 04:39 PM
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IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE ANY INSECTICIDE/PESTICIDE PRODUCT AGAINST THE LABEL.
There is a reason why these products have labels...to make sure the product is used correctly and safely on the target animal.

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Didn't you say you had a terrible fly problem?
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08/01/06, 04:50 PM
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Thanks for the tip Bob. Obviously there are some folks that have never had to battle a couple determined coons. I don't have any right now but I will note this formula for the next wave. Sorry 'bout your boyfriend.
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08/01/06, 04:53 PM
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Thanks for the tip Bob. Obviously there are some folks that have never had to battle a couple determined coons. I don't have any right now but I will note this formula for the next wave. Sorry 'bout your boyfriend.
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he does drink alot of Mt Dew
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08/01/06, 05:05 PM
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Good information. Thanks for that. My uncle lives next door and he goes coon hunting every night so that keeps our coon population down pretty well, but someday he might not be there to kill them for us! If anyone is mad that you are using fly bait to kill coons in the middle of the night they are insane.
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08/01/06, 05:25 PM
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Bob, thank you so much for the info! The coons decimated our corn again this year
Tomorrow morning I'm off to TSC to buy some fly bait 
Wonder if we can figure out a way to get possums and crows to eat it too?
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08/01/06, 06:13 PM
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Bob, thank you so much for the info! The coons decimated our corn again this year
Tomorrow morning I'm off to TSC to buy some fly bait 
Wonder if we can figure out a way to get possums and crows to eat it too?
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Its smells like something dead.So id wager that opossums would love it.
I bought it to use on the neighbors dog which was getting my chickens.But didn't have the heart to use it after i calmed down.So i shot him instead. 
But note i read that dogs will lap it up when mixed with coke cola.Be very careful every one.Doesn't take but a very tiny amount to kill.Please put it somewhere where only the targeted victim can get to it.
And yes it works on flys to boot.  They drop dead faster than the coons.
Ive heard it causes massive,all most instant internal bleeding,which is why it works so fast i guess.
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08/01/06, 06:15 PM
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Thanks for the tip Bob. Obviously there are some folks that have never had to battle a couple determined coons. I don't have any right now but I will note this formula for the next wave. Sorry 'bout your boyfriend.
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I have had to battle plenty of crafty coons, weasles, opossums, owls and other wildife trying to get to the chickens. We work very hard at our poultry enclosures and now have few problems.
Part of my job includes helping "clean up the mess" when folks use poor judgement and risk other animals/people with their poisonous recipes. Oh, and these people are so full regret at what their lack of judgement did after the fact. But, I'm sure at the time, they are like most of the folks on this thread - taking it lightly, and no big deal.
Some people understand the consequences of using something against the label - others don't. Point is - the label is there for a reason, not just to see if you can read.
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I will wait to put it out until after I have locked the poultry away for the night. What if the coons are sloppy and spill some on the ground....will I have to cordone off that area or can I just dilute it with a good hosing?
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Id be very careful.Id image just one crystal of it would kill a chicken.But it does dissolve fairly well so i dought you'd have pieces laying around.How ever this stuff is strong enough that if it rained where it got spilled and a chicken drank from a puddle in the area, well.
Id put it in a heavy enough dish that the coons cant turn it over.And maybe in a corner that can be hosed out of the pen just encase they got it out on the ground.
To everyone:
Two strans of electric fence around the coop/run is much safer.And you don't have to reapply it after another coon moves in.  Cheap charger 35dollars, wire and plastic insulators 30 dollars.Peaceful nights sleep priceless. 
One wire 8 inches off the ground for noisy dogs and coons,and another near the top to prevent climbing.
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I found that Pepsi works best for me. We use a live trap to catch them. I dip all of my varmit cartridges in a cup of flat Pepsi (has to be flat) and let them air dry. Put the barrel right up agin the trap, pull the trigger, ***blammo***. That Pepsi does the trick. I've heard Coke will work, but why tamper with success.
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08/01/06, 07:34 PM
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I have been told that it will also kill by its self because they cant burp. it bloats them up and they die .
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That would be rats, not coons.
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08/01/06, 07:59 PM
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Id be very careful.Id image just one crystal of it would kill a chicken.But it does dissolve fairly well so i dought you'd have pieces laying around.How ever this stuff is strong enough that if it rained where it got spilled and a chicken drank from a puddle in the area, well.
Id put it in a heavy enough dish that the coons cant turn it over.And maybe in a corner that can be hosed out of the pen just encase they got it out on the ground.
To everyone:
Two strans of electric fence around the coop/run is much safer.And you don't have to reapply it after another coon moves in.  Cheap charger 35dollars, wire and plastic insulators 30 dollars.Peaceful nights sleep priceless. 
One wire 8 inches off the ground for noisy dogs and coons,and another near the top to prevent climbing.
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So, what's everyone's idea for keeping coons out of my 160 yr old saw mill? They live between the first and second floors. (ceiling) They make such a huge mess, and eat my peafowl's fertile eggs (that's 25.00 each egg!)
We have a real problem with rabies around here. Rabid bats, specifically. And we have bats living in that mill too. At this point in time, there is really no good way to make the building tight.
Live trap? Then what am I supposed to do with the thing once it is in the trap? Our home is 'in town' even though we have 10 acres or so. Doesn't matter. You can't just shoot a gun here. Stick it in my SUV and drive it and drop it off somewhere? That's illegal here.
So, the only good option for me is to kill them, and deal with the carcass. Fast acting poison seems like a better option than for the coon to wander off 1/4 mile and then have my dogs come across it.
The conservation district says there is open season on racoons, and coyotes. Provided I get a 7.00 trapping licence, I can kill them via whatever method is most convienient for me. Including poison.
Oh yeah, and I have a REAL FLY PROBLEM!
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08/01/06, 08:38 PM
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I have had to battle plenty of crafty coons, weasles, opossums, owls and other wildife trying to get to the chickens. We work very hard at our poultry enclosures and now have few problems.
Part of my job includes helping "clean up the mess" when folks use poor judgement and risk other animals/people with their poisonous recipes. Oh, and these people are so full regret at what their lack of judgement did after the fact. But, I'm sure at the time, they are like most of the folks on this thread - taking it lightly, and no big deal.
Some people understand the consequences of using something against the label - others don't. Point is - the label is there for a reason, not just to see if you can read.
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How would you enclose a 1 acre garden? How would you enclose a 2 acre cornfield that you're growing to feed yourself and your animals?
These animals are eating our food. What they don't eat they destroy.
Most people on this board (myself included) are bright enough to figure out a way to poison the target animals only.
BTW, the "reason" the label is there to protect the company from liability - period.
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08/01/06, 08:49 PM
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Paula, This works great around sweet corn patches. Just use several pans at diferent locations around the patch. Aluminum pie pans work great. I'm very careful to take up all pans in morning and put back out late evening. My river bottom grows great corn, but it grows unbelievable coons! Opossums are likewise attracted and subsequently killed.
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08/01/06, 09:14 PM
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How would you enclose a 1 acre garden? How would you enclose a 2 acre cornfield that you're growing to feed yourself and your animals?
These animals are eating our food. What they don't eat they destroy.
Most people on this board (myself included) are bright enough to figure out a way to poison the target animals only.
BTW, the "reason" the label is there to protect the company from liability - period.
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That's incorrect. The improper use of the pesticide as listed on the label is the applicator's responsibility.
The pesticide label is your prescription for using a pesticide. The label contains information necessary for safe and effective use. It may refer you to labeling for supplemental label information (examples: Worker Protection Standard, endangered species program).
All pesticide labels have signal words that identify the toxicity of the product.
It is a violation of federal law to use a pesticide in a manner inconsistent with the label. The label is a legal document recognized by courts of law. Failure to read and follow its recommendations is a violation that may result in fines or other legal action being taken.
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08/01/06, 09:28 PM
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Part of my job includes helping "clean up the mess" when folks use poor judgement and risk other animals/people with their poisonous recipes.
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If someone else's animal is in my barn then they are welcome to eat it too.
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08/01/06, 09:41 PM
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I got dang packrat?s? in my chicken house
Think it would work on them? Also, unless I take it in, the dang possums will come up on my portch and eat the cats food. I used to trap them with the old time traps, one spring handle. break up a weenie all round it. Did real good, but got busy with farming and laid off of it. The cats each got caught once, and luckly it didnt hurt them, but once was enough, and they didnt mess around there again.
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08/01/06, 10:38 PM
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Hmmm...
I wonder if they make a varminticide? for coons and possums?
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