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Old 08/01/06, 10:30 AM
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My guess is that one of their incredibly stupid children "forgot" to give the dog water
The only thing we really know is a young dog died and was buried. Could have been shot or poisoned by an enemy of the family, it might have had a congenital disease. it's a shame it wasn't better appreciated for sure. These people may not be the best neighbors pet owners or even the greatest contributors to the comunity but white POS trash?? I agree with Mary.
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Old 08/01/06, 10:41 AM
 
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If it was my choice, id report these sickos to the police! Someone needs to make sure they never take possesion of another dog or any other animal again. People like that make me sick, and they should be in prison.
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Old 08/01/06, 11:05 AM
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White trash? Worthless children? I understand that you are angry, but I could never refer to people in the manner, and find it offensive. (So, sue me.)
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Well, considering their mother, who works full time must go out every week and pick up the trash that is around the yard, wash the car, and MOW THE LAWN while her two children (boys) who are 16 and 14 years old sit inside and watch television or play video games do NOTHING. (Including take care of the pets, ostensibly), I would say that qualifies them as being worthless. I have never seen either one of them LIFT A FINGER to do anything around the house.

Maybe your definition is different.

As for the white trash issue. Anywone who would allow their pets to die from neglect is white trash in my book. In fact, white trash is TOO GOOD FOR THEM, but I can't think of anything worse to say. Well, I can, but it's not fit for a family board such as this one.

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Old 08/01/06, 11:06 AM
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If it was my choice, id report these sickos to the police! Someone needs to make sure they never take possesion of another dog or any other animal again. People like that make me sick, and they should be in prison.
I have called the sherrif's office today and they were very understanding. Although they said there really isn't much they could "do", they would be happy to send a deputy by to have a talk with the neighbors and do a "wellfare" check on the remaining dog and puppies to see if they are ok and have water.

Maybe that will be enough to help. I hope so.

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Old 08/01/06, 11:10 AM
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That is really sad I would hate to live next to folks that abuse their animals that way if they cant or wont care for them they should put a bullet in their heads.
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Old 08/01/06, 11:13 AM
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Hopefully, you will now make sure the other dog gets some attention, and always has, shade, fresh food, and water. Don't understand what kept you from doing so for the lost dog.

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We have told the neighbors a dozen times to keep off our our property since their worthless children were prone to poking around our place when we weren't home, even to the point of opening our storage building and checking out its contents. Therefore, we do not talk to them or go on their property. The dogs are far enough away that I cannot tell if they have food or water unless I walk over there. As for being in the sun, apparently the dog's chain was wrapped around something and he could not reach the shade. I am not making excuses, but I really do not have the time to spend taking care of pets that other people cannot take care of. If I had been here during the day, and I noticed that the dog could not get in the shade or seemed to be suffering, I would have called them and told them to go see about the dog. I have done this before, but of course, they didn't care enough to do anything about it. So the point is really sort of moot.

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That is really sad......I feel bad for animals under such abuse.
The dog only knows the treatment that it is given....It doesn't
know there is someone out there that would give it a good
home if it could escape..........Idea, create an escape plan for
the dog..............maybe it can find a good home somewhere else.
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.........Idea, create an escape plan for
the dog..............maybe it can find a good home somewhere else.
You're kidding, right? Cause that sorta sounds like the people who dump dogs out here in the country so they can find a new home.
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Old 08/01/06, 09:46 PM
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How long would it take them to notice if their other dog just disappeared one day? Broke the leash or the chain and just up and disappeared?

You must have a friend somewhere far away who would like a dog.
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Well, I really didn't mean for it to be dumped anywhere.
I was hoping it would know how to find a home somewhere
with an outpouring of love.......other wise it will stay and
be abused because that is all it knows.........maybe then, someone
should "steal" it. Ought oh! I know I just opened the can of worms........I will get
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Old 08/02/06, 09:31 PM
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How long would it take them to notice if their other dog just disappeared one day? Broke the leash or the chain and just up and disappeared?

You must have a friend somewhere far away who would like a dog.
Well, personally, no I don't. But I would have no problem taking them to our local no-kill shelter to be adopted, even paying the $45 fee to do so. Unfortunately, upon asking about this, I was told that the shelter is already over-capacity with unwanted dogs and puppies and there is no way they could take more. They have to farm dogs out to "foster" homes because of this. *sigh* I noticed tonight that the puppies are getting old enough to roam and will soon be all over our yard, which will prompt me to call the neighbors and tell them to "figure it out", as if that will do much good.

Today they didn't get around to giving the mama dog any water until 1 pm. It had been well over 90 degrees for at least two hours by then. I noticed the dog has diarrhea real bad and seems very lethargic (well, who wouldn't being out in 100 degree heat all day).

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Old 08/02/06, 09:37 PM
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Could you please post their side of the story. People saying white trash and stupid stupid children are always great nieghbors. IM sure.
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Old 08/02/06, 09:38 PM
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Old 08/02/06, 10:46 PM
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Well, considering their mother, who works full time must go out every week and pick up the trash that is around the yard, wash the car, and MOW THE LAWN while her two children (boys) who are 16 and 14 years old sit inside and watch television or play video games do NOTHING. (Including take care of the pets, ostensibly), I would say that qualifies them as being worthless. I have never seen either one of them LIFT A FINGER to do anything around the house.
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Today they didn't get around to giving the mama dog any water until 1 pm. It had been well over 90 degrees for at least two hours by then. I noticed the dog has diarrhea real bad and seems very lethargic (well, who wouldn't being out in 100 degree heat all day).
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As for being in the sun, apparently the dog's chain was wrapped around something and he could not reach the shade. I am not making excuses, but I really do not have the time to spend taking care of pets that other people cannot take care of. If I had been here during the day, and I noticed that the dog could not get in the shade or seemed to be suffering, I would have called them and told them to go see about the dog.

So....you seem to know an awful lot about the daily life of your neighbors. And seem to know an awful lot about why and how the dog died. Are you sitting looking out the window at them day in day out? You must be, in order to deem that the kids do nothing, dont lift a finger, etc. How do you know what goes on inside the house?

If you could see the dog was wrapped around something and couldnt reach shade, and had no water, but you have "no time" to spend to even call someone? You have time to watch what their "worthless children" do all day, why not that?

Oh you said you werent there! Yet you know how it died and why. Hmm. You said it couldnt get in the shade but if you were there to see it, you would have called. Make up your mind, either you saw it or didnt?
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The worst thing about this whole story is that the death of that poor dog is adding to the scorn, hatred, and nastyness that exists between neighbors. I wish somehow things could get turned around into a better direction.
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Animal abusers, white trash, black trash, tan trash, yellow trash or purple with green polka dots trash are all reasons I scorn our species to the extent that I do. I have no use for those who abuse animals or people. I have rescued animals from abuse in the past and only had one "owner" threaten me while doing so. I responded to him that if he wanted to call the sheriff he was more than welcome to as I would be testifying that I was preventing animal cruelty and would make sure that he would go to jail. He was the only one who thought he was big enough to stop me from rescuing his several starving and dehydrated dogs. He got one punch in on me, which I let happen, and then I left him gasping for air on the ground while I finished loading up the dogs. He never said another word to me.

Animal and human abusers are on the same level as a rabid animal. How does one generally handle a rabid animal? I ask this rhetorically to encourage people to think about the seriousness of what is happening. As for those who think an abused animal has little value in their own overly busy and complicated lives, remember that someone who will abuse animals now may decide to abuse you and your family in the future. Better to stop the problem early while it is easier rather than later when you may have to fight for your life, literally.

Judge me if you like, but at least I can sleep well at night knowing that I do what I think is moral, ethical and right. Abuse is abuse. If one tolerates abuse in any form they are just as culpable for it as the one who abuses.
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Old 08/03/06, 04:58 AM
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considering their mother, who works full time must go out every week and pick up the trash that is around the yard, wash the car, and MOW THE LAWN while her two children (boys) who are 16 and 14 years old sit inside and watch television or play video games do NOTHING. (Including take care of the pets, ostensibly), I would say that qualifies them as being worthless. I have never seen either one of them LIFT A FINGER to do anything around the house.
I would say that since they are children, and not responsible ones at that, then the parents should be held accountable for allowing it to go on. If they were decent people, they would have either taken over the duties themselves if they loved the dogs, or taken them to the shelter where they could find a better home. For them to sit there and allow it to go on teaches their kids that it's ok; I would not blame the kids so much as the parents.

What that Mom needs to do (if she were willing, which I doubt, since she is enabling them) is cut those tv and game cords and say, "This is the way it is: help out or you can forget ANYTHING else." So no tv, no games, no allowance, no ATV's or whatever, no driving them around....ZILCH. "Don't like it, find someone who wants to put up with lazy kids." Guess they wouldn't like living in my house, huh?

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I can sleep well at night knowing that I do what I think is moral, ethical and right. Abuse is abuse. If one tolerates abuse in any form they are just as culpable for it as the one who abuses.
lonewolf, does busting up the neighbour also constitute abuse, or do you mean that beating up people is ok if you think you are doing the right thing? Not trying to sound sarcastic; but you posted a long spiel about how it is wrong to abuse and at the same time seemed so proud of having your neighbour getting " one punch in on me, which I let happen, and then I left him gasping for air on the ground"....? Not trying to pick a fight you understand....I do understand how seeing animal abuse makes someone see red; I personally would go for a more non-violent approach to solving the situation.
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Old 08/03/06, 07:51 AM
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I'm judging you Lonewolf: I think you are a hero!

Donsgal, it kind of sounds to me like the dogs may have/had Parvo from the symptoms. Bad stuff and they were probably never vaccinated for it.

People are such morons. Most animals are better people than humans are.

Outlaw9, a dog in trouble next door that you can SEE is in trouble IS your business.

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Old 08/03/06, 10:21 AM
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Outlaw9, a dog in trouble next door that you can SEE is in trouble IS your business.

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I agree. So why didnt Donsgal do anything, other than watch and judge?

Id still like to know how she knows what goes on inside the neighbors home.
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Old 08/03/06, 01:33 PM
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So....you seem to know an awful lot about the daily life of your neighbors. And seem to know an awful lot about why and how the dog died. Are you sitting looking out the window at them day in day out? You must be, in order to deem that the kids do nothing, dont lift a finger, etc. How do you know what goes on inside the house?
I spend a lot of time working outside around my property. They are less than 80 feet away from me, I would have to try NOT to notice what is going on at their house.

As for what goes on inside the house, I can only speculate. I do know that when they have the windows open you can see the television going and you can hear it all hours of the day and night.

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If you could see the dog was wrapped around something and couldnt reach shade, and had no water, but you have "no time" to spend to even call someone? You have time to watch what their "worthless children" do all day, why not that?

Oh you said you werent there! Yet you know how it died and why. Hmm. You said it couldnt get in the shade but if you were there to see it, you would have called. Make up your mind, either you saw it or didnt?
I saw the dead dog laying on the ground and I saw where it was lying (not close to the shade) after it died. I don't know that the leash was caught for certain, but since there was shade less than 10 feet from where the dog died, I assume there was some reason that he did not head for it. Other than maybe, he was too dehydrated from lack of water. Unfortunately, I cannot monitor the status of other people's dogs 24 hours a day. I assume they are being cared for. I assume the bowl that is sitting by their dog house has water in it. I guess I could spend all day tresspassing on their property to check the water supply of their dogs, but that seems impractical to me.

When I was driving home, I saw the worthless kids digging a hole (under their mothers supervision of course, because no way would they have done this on their own). I saw the mother drag the stiff dog over to the hole and throw it in. The dog appeared to be very dehydrated (you could see it's ribs and other bones clearly). Two days before the dog was in fine shape, happy, running around - so I know this appearance was not due to starvation or other disease. Two days before it was just fine. Even if I had been home at the time, unless I had checked the water bowl personally, I wouldn't have known the dog did not have water. If I had been home, and had noticed that something was wrong, I would have taken steps to do something about it. Unfortunately, I was not. I have subsequently contacted the Humane Society of the Ozarks and filed a complaint. Other than camping out next to the dog house, I don't think there is much else I can do.

The point remains the same. It's their dogs and and it's their responsibility. They are the ones you should be angry at not me. I could have just ignored the whole matter but I tried to do something to help the dogs. I wonder what you would have done in the same position? It's awful easy to point fingers when it's happening to someone else.

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