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kirsten 07/28/06 02:55 AM

unfortunately, I don't have any questions
 
I am a writer and I have desperately wanted to post on here for a couple of months since I like this forum but unfortunately, try as I might, I can't think of any questions and thus, any topics! So I thought if I just start talking... something might come to me...LOL

I don't have any questions because... I own books and my vet adores me. He said I could even traipse my whole flock through his office to weigh them all come breeding season. I don't have any cooking questions, preserving questions, fencing questions, electrical questions, breeding questions, digging questions, watering questions, land questions, family questions, how to save money questions...no questions about laws, no bad neighbors, no ornery livestock and my sheep are adorable and spiritual. They broke out once and spent the afternoon at church sleeping under the trees and eating church flowers. They break out and run to church. Good sheep.

I don't necessarily see myself as a homesteader or a homemaker and while I hope to be able to see myself as a successful hatchery and rancher one day, I plan to hire people to keep the house, to keep the yards, to be my ranch manager, nanny if that ever comes up... My plan is to prosper in such a way that I can hire people. I have spent a lot of time in truck stops, writing and have met so many sad cowboys... (I'll be on the road preaching)

I was not raised in the country. I can't grow anything to save my life but I can raise living things and collect wild things. I do attempt a garden every year but something happens to it every year.... like weeds start growing in it.


Anyway, I like to start things, oversee things but give it to someone else for day to day care becuase it makes them happy. I always spend time with all my animals, they love my socks off, my turkeys and sheep chase my truck and my chickens are always with me etc.. Altogether that doesn't make me very homesteader-y. A homesteader by your seeming definition is a jack of all trades. But I am not going to be that becuase I don't believe that spreading yourself so thin is the way to be successful at anything. It seems then that you only accomplish a little of everything thus you get caught up becuase with ranching there is always a little of everything left to do. I have lists every day of things to accomplish and while I am wandering about doing my list, I see 20 other things that need to be done too and if I don't watch out, those things will ensnare me and get me off track. Too bad my dishes don't have the sweet faces of my lambs or the mop the happy energy of my dog or the dust rag the devotion of my chickens... At any rate and lastly, I hope, it seems good to employ people, to give everyone their tasks to do and then everything gets done under the watch of many eyes and the labor of many hands. I suppose that is why you guys have children.

Aha! I finally found a topic. I went through our family history book the other day with my grandma and it was so weird becuase the whole book back to the 1600's read" and she had 10 children and died at 36...." Or 8, 9, 11, 12, 13 and died at 41, 45, 37... etc... By 36, my grandmother's mother had gone through about 13 pregnancies and after the twins the doctor said, have no more babies or you will die. She got pregnant and she died as soon as the critter was born. I remarked upon all these women dying from having kids and dying young, not a one of them made it past 50 years old! and my grandma said, "they worked them to death and they screwed them to death." So you see, that is actual homesteading, killing your wives.. that is the actual country and that is our history and your forefathers killed your foremothers and so on. And what is to account for that, really? have 5 accidents rather than not care and kill your wife who dies a little faster by the pregnancy? It makes me mad but real homesteading can be measured by the women and how long they lived. We don't feel that at this point so you may find this disquieting becuase we don't kill our wives in the same ways these days and things are a lot easier with technology but the people who came before you and did the harder version of what you are doing croaked a whole lot faster. In every generation, women are forced to do everything men do and then all the women stuff too. God made them stronger in an undeniable way and I am no feminist either. I wish, for my line of business, that God had made me a man, how much easier it would be...

So there you go, my first homesteading topic although we are so far removed from actual field work that I don't think it will really impact us the way it should, these lessons of the past of women bearing children and hitting the fields the same afternoon and all of that together killing them off in their youth. And while I was raised in the city, I am the first of my generations to be so.

kirsten
harmony ranch

moopups 07/28/06 03:02 AM

Have you considered a caffeine adjustment?

Spinner 07/28/06 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kirsten
I'm a writer

Yep, I believe you. :p
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Originally Posted by kirsten
I do attempt a garden every year but something happens to it every year.... like weeds start growing in it.

If you pull those weeds out, then the good stuff might grow. :rolleyes:

BellsBunnies 07/28/06 04:30 AM

Hello kirsten!

In every generation, women are forced to do everything men do and then all the women stuff too. God made them stronger in an undeniable way and I am no feminist either. I wish, for my line of business, that God had made me a man, how much easier it would be...

As a woman I am never forced to do anything. I do the farm thing because I truly enjoy it and because in this day and time If your ever going to have anything It takes 2.

Terri 07/28/06 06:34 AM

Writing is a good profession for a person with an agri-business. It helps to balance the physical stuff out.

We ALSO have a lot of family history, and have you noticed how YOUNG the men were when THEY died?

That happens when there is no good health care. The loss of the female relatives wasn't all because of over work and babies. When my Grandfather had heart problems when he was in his 80's, my parents practically had to DRAG him to see a doctor! He didn't think they would do him any good, and when you look at the state of the art when he was born in the late 1800's I can certainly see why! Since he had always avoided doctors, he had never realized how medicine had changed!

michelleIL 07/28/06 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moopups
Have you considered a caffeine adjustment?


LOL!!!

Windy_jem 07/28/06 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moopups
Have you considered a caffeine adjustment?

Kirsten posted at 2:55 AM...I think she needed a nap about that time instead...LOL

mpillow 07/28/06 07:12 AM

Writer? or Rambler? or Dreamer?

Hope you have deep pockets to pay all those people to work for you! Unless of course you'll hire illegals and don't get me started on that topic!

And as a woman I do have alot of responsibilities...none of which I was forced in to....but I didn't have children so I could pay someone else to raise them, I didn't get animals without realizing the daily committment...

May you never have to clean up baby vomit, poopy diapers, or reach inside a cow or goat or sheep during a difficult delivery. :rolleyes:

PineRidge 07/28/06 07:32 AM

Anyway, I like to start things, oversee things but give it to someone else for day to day care becuase it makes them happy.

They don't do it for happiness, they do it for money.

At any rate and lastly, I hope, it seems good to employ people, to give everyone their tasks to do and then everything gets done under the watch of many eyes and the labor of many hands. I suppose that is why you guys have children.



I can't think of one person who has had children to make things easier, and personally this offends me in ways which my language would be innapropriate for this forum.

I liked your first two paragraphs, but the rest....well, why did you post it?

MaineFarmMom 07/28/06 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kirsten
I don't necessarily see myself as a homesteader or a homemaker and while I hope to be able to see myself as a successful hatchery and rancher one day, I plan to hire people to keep the house, to keep the yards, to be my ranch manager, nanny if that ever comes up... My plan is to prosper in such a way that I can hire people. I have spent a lot of time in truck stops, writing and have met so many sad cowboys... (I'll be on the road preaching)

I'll never understand why people who have children for their nannies.


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A homesteader by your seeming definition is a jack of all trades.
By whose definition? Not mine. Look at a bigger picture. You're lumping a large group of people into an inaccurate definition.


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But I am not going to be that becuase I don't believe that spreading yourself so thin is the way to be successful at anything.
Did you just tell the homesteaders here that they're unsuccesful?


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At any rate and lastly, I hope, it seems good to employ people, to give everyone their tasks to do and then everything gets done under the watch of many eyes and the labor of many hands. I suppose that is why you guys have children.
No, it's not. Children create more work for their parents. They're not a convenience. They're not hired hands. They're real people, not just something to hand over to the nanny.

What was your real reason for posting this here?

MarleneS 07/28/06 08:14 AM

She has 315 post - she surely has thought of something to say before this one.

Hugs
marlene

Chas in Me 07/28/06 08:43 AM

[I]I am a writer and I have desperately wanted to post on here for a couple of months since I like this forum but unfortunately, try as I might, I can't think of any questions and thus, any topics! [/I

That's OK, I don't have any answers.

Westwood 07/28/06 08:52 AM

I don't see a thing wrong with prospering in what you're good at so you can hire someone who IS good at those things you aren't, to help out with the lifestyle you enjoy. Ranchers commonly hire for the tasks they can't do by themselves. That's why cowboys were invented!

That isn't how I'd handle things personally, I was just born a jack of all trades and now have a partner who was also. How lucky can you get??

rwinsouthla 07/28/06 09:01 AM

Chuck!!!!!!

Chuck!!!!

Are you there Chuck?????

Breaker 1-9, Breaker 1-9, This here's rw huntin' Chuck the post deleter. Come back Chuckie!!!!

"Go Ahead for Chuck".

Yeah Chuck, seems we got us a rambler here. She's a-posting stuff that don't please us and we can't figger out if she's smoking peyote or not. Can you move that post to post-purgatory fer us, now? Come back....

sweetcountrygrl 07/28/06 09:08 AM

Ok... I'm really REALLY holding back on this one... So many comments want to slip out but I'm promising myself I'll play nice....if nothing else it was a wonderful chuckle for the morning...... Rose you pretty much hit the nail on the head with your response. There just HAS to be some tongue in cheek humor here right? I mean why would you go on a homesteading site...where the majority of people here are working towards self sufficiency (read into this as not having others do all the work for them and finding it rewarding) etc. and basically mock it. Now of course everyone is entitled to live their lives in a way that makes them happy....and if this makes her happy then so be it and more power to her...however I just feel it's kind of an odd forum to express these particular "thoughts". :shrug:

tamatik 07/28/06 10:05 AM

ok ..I,m awake now.I feel I have been touched by the hand of omnipotence.Now I know now,what I\m doing wrong..I,m doing this stuff myself..well ,cept for the baby stuff..My other half did that...and left 3 months later(alone)..that was 15 yrs ago and my boy Zeke is none the worse because of it..Altho he drives me crazy sometimes.Maybe she just started something and left it for me to finish.hmm..Is it done yet?
Gord in BC

AngieM2 07/28/06 10:38 AM

Go click on her name, and pull up all her posts.

They are mostly in the animal forums.... but some in other forums, like Country Families, talking about city people raising Country and vise versa...

But the tone seems different to me.... doesn't add up.

Go read for yourselves and see what you think.

Angie

PS: and I find it interesting to liking this forum, and then "slamming" the very basis of the people that post here specifically and HT generally.
AM

jill.costello 07/28/06 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwinsouthla
Chuck!!!!!!

Chuck!!!!

Are you there Chuck?????

Breaker 1-9, Breaker 1-9, This here's rw huntin' Chuck the post deleter. Come back Chuckie!!!!

"Go Ahead for Chuck".

Yeah Chuck, seems we got us a rambler here. She's a-posting stuff that don't please us and we can't figger out if she's smoking peyote or not. Can you move that post to post-purgatory fer us, now? Come back....

ROFLMAO!!!!!!! [made my morning!]

jill.costello 07/28/06 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kirsten
I don't necessarily see myself as a homesteader or a homemaker and while I hope to be able to see myself as a successful hatchery and rancher one day, I plan to hire people to keep the house, to keep the yards, to be my ranch manager, nanny if that ever comes up... My plan is to prosper in such a way that I can hire people. I have spent a lot of time in truck stops, writing and have met so many sad cowboys... (I'll be on the road preaching)


That time she's spending at the TRUCK STOPS must really be paying off...

I guess to make enough dough to hire the housekeeper, the groundsman, the ranch manager, and the nanny, those cowboys must be REALLY sad....











(I know, I know, shocking.... I'm sorry, it was extremely uncharitable to post like that, but I'm usully so GOOD, I just slipped, ok??)

uncle Will in In. 07/28/06 11:19 AM

You are a fiction writer I see.

If you didn't know it all , you would do well asking a few questions.

Nette 07/28/06 11:24 AM

It amazes me how different people can read the same post and get such different vibes from it. I thought it was an interesting little piece of creative writing...

PineRidge 07/28/06 11:38 AM

hmmm, ok so I read some of her other posts and they don't have this tone at all... :shrug: Maybe this is a writing exercise?

turtlehead 07/28/06 11:38 AM

And THIS is why we always log off of the computers at the library when we're done with them.
Any questions?

mayfair 07/28/06 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlehead
And THIS is why we always log off of the computers at the library when we're done with them.
Any questions?

Yup. I'm guessing someone else thought it would be amusing to post on her account.

MaineFarmMom 07/28/06 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlehead
And THIS is why we always log off of the computers at the library when we're done with them.
Any questions?

I bet you're right. That makes sense. Does anyone know how to get in touch with Kirsten without having to go through HT to let her know someone might have hacked her account?

bargarguy 07/28/06 02:51 PM

Some one hand this person their medication please, that post is seriously disturbing.

Ardie/WI 07/28/06 03:04 PM

ROFL! I love the CB talk and the comment about the sad cowboys at the truck stops just about made me PIMP. Was thinking the same thing.

Checked her other posts and this one doesn't jibe, soooooo, maybe we have a troll type using her name.

Whatever....no harm done.

sweetcountrygrl 07/28/06 03:13 PM

While reading these latest posts, I noticed she was also reading this thread....but it appears she didn't respond. If it was in fact her I'd hope that she would let us know if she was in fact "hijacked" or if these really are her words.

marvella 07/28/06 04:08 PM

playing devils advocate here...


she didn't violate any rules. sounds to me like she may be a wannabe, that doesn't really know what she is talking about.

i think we should give her the benefit of the doubt for the time being?

some people are too quick to take offense sometimes.

katlupe 07/28/06 04:15 PM

Look at her previous posts. It doesn't appear as if it's the same person writing this one. Maybe she had kids and they are playing on the computer today.

katlupe

marvella 07/28/06 04:20 PM

i did go look at her posts this morning. sounded to me as if she is pretty much a newbie. :shrug: the mods dont seem concered- the thread is still here.

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Originally Posted by katlupe
Look at her previous posts. It doesn't appear as if it's the same person writing this one. Maybe she had kids and they are playing on the computer today.

katlupe


CatsPaw 07/28/06 04:20 PM

o.k. so I'll throw in my two cents.

Back in the day, everyone died alot younger. 60 yrs old was ancient.

Women don't have it any tougher than men. Go on a cruise ship and count the number of widows. Then count the number of widowers, if you can find any. Whatever life was like 100 years ago...well...get over it. You weren't there.

Back in the day, when you lived miles from your nearest neighbor out on the prairie, you couldn't just put an add in the paper and hire a grunt to do chores. You had kids. That was your labor force. No video games or skateboards. Gather eggs and firewood. Fetch water. Hitch up the horses to plow. Harvest acres of food. Shuck corn and peas. Shovel manure. One or two people can't do all that by themselves and live very long or happily.

Today, homesteaders may say you can. And I'll bet you they still go out and buy stuff they don't have or grow. Can't do that when you're out in the middle of nowhere. You only have each other and what you can make, gather, or grow. If the crows eat your corn, too bad. Start looking for lizards or something 'cause you won't have anything in the winter.

I vote for getting over how tough anybodies life is....man or woman.

urbanfarmer 07/28/06 04:28 PM

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My plan is to prosper in such a way that I can hire people.
Please hurry up and prosper cause I need a job.

margo 07/28/06 05:12 PM

I didn't take my medication today,....so it made perfect sense...... :shrug:

maybe thats the way to read it.....
lol
Margo

KCM 07/28/06 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirsten
I am a writer and I have desperately wanted to post on here for a couple of months
You have posted several times during the past couple months..

since I like this forum but unfortunately, try as I might, I can't think of any questions and thus, any topics!
I might be able to help you think up some questions!

I don't have any questions because... I own books and my vet adores me. He said I could even traipse my whole flock through his office to weigh them all come breeding season. I don't have any cooking questions, preserving questions, fencing questions, electrical questions, breeding questions, digging questions, watering questions, land questions, family questions, how to save money questions...no questions about laws, no bad neighbors, no ornery livestock and my sheep are adorable and spiritual. They broke out once and spent the afternoon at church sleeping under the trees and eating church flowers. They break out and run to church. Good sheep.
Where was Mary?

I don't necessarily see myself as a homesteader or a homemaker and while I hope to be able to see myself as a successful hatchery and rancher one day, I plan to hire people to keep the house, to keep the yards, to be my ranch manager, nanny if that ever comes up... My plan is to prosper in such a way that I can hire people. I have spent a lot of time in truck stops, writing and have met so many sad cowboys... (I'll be on the road preaching)
Did you meet any cowgirls? If not ..that might be why the cowboys were sad.

I was not raised in the country. I can't grow anything to save my life but I can raise living things and collect wild things. I do attempt a garden every year but something happens to it every year.... like weeds start growing in it.
If you can't grow anything you plant ..then plant weeds.

Anyway, I like to start things, oversee things but give it to someone else for day to day care becuase it makes them happy.
Did you start this thread with the plan that you'll give it to someone else to care for?
.. I always spend time with all my animals, they love my socks off, my turkeys and sheep chase my truck and my chickens are always with me etc..
So ..you have one of those kind of trucks ..the kind that runs whenever the turkeys and sheep chase it???

Altogether that doesn't make me very homesteader-y
Is that homesteader-why ..or homesteader-ee?

A homesteader by your seeming definition is a jack of all trades. But I am not going to be that becuase I don't believe that spreading yourself so thin is the way to be successful at anything. It seems then that you only accomplish a little of everything thus you get caught up becuase with ranching there is always a little of everything left to do. I have lists every day of things to accomplish and while I am wandering about doing my list, I see 20 other things that need to be done too and if I don't watch out, those things will ensnare me and get me off track.
What do you want? What is your plan? Where do you want to be?

Too bad my dishes don't have the sweet faces of my lambs or the mop the happy energy of my dog or the dust rag the devotion of my chickens... At any rate and lastly, I hope, it seems good to employ people, to give everyone their tasks to do and then everything gets done under the watch of many eyes and the labor of many hands. I suppose that is why you guys have children.
Too hot to sleep tonight ..huh?

Aha! I finally found a topic. I went through our family history book the other day with my grandma and it was so weird becuase the whole book back to the 1600's read" and she had 10 children and died at 36...." Or 8, 9, 11, 12, 13 and died at 41, 45, 37... etc... By 36, my grandmother's mother had gone through about 13 pregnancies and after the twins the doctor said, have no more babies or you will die. She got pregnant and she died as soon as the critter was born. I remarked upon all these women dying from having kids and dying young, not a one of them made it past 50 years old! and my grandma said, "they worked them to death and they screwed them to death." So you see, that is actual homesteading, killing your wives.. that is the actual country and that is our history and your forefathers killed your foremothers and so on. And what is to account for that, really? have 5 accidents rather than not care and kill your wife who dies a little faster by the pregnancy? It makes me mad but real homesteading can be measured by the women and how long they lived. We don't feel that at this point so you may find this disquieting becuase we don't kill our wives in the same ways these days and things are a lot easier with technology but the people who came before you and did the harder version of what you are doing croaked a whole lot faster. In every generation, women are forced to do everything men do and then all the women stuff too. God made them stronger in an undeniable way and I am no feminist either. I wish, for my line of business, that God had made me a man, how much easier it would be...
..What is your line of business ..and why do wish you were a man? And why did you said "we don't kill our wives.."?

So there you go, my first homesteading topic although we are so far removed from actual field work that I don't think it will really impact us the way it should, these lessons of the past of women bearing children and hitting the fields the same afternoon and all of that together killing them off in their youth. And while I was raised in the city, I am the first of my generations to be so.
I wonder if this is some kind of 'field test' for you ..to give you a glimpse of how people might react to a book you are writing?

kirsten
harmony ranch

I think you write quite well ..jump from subject to subject ..rambling on about not much in particular ..yet actually having something to say. And you seemed to have held this reader's interest all the way through your post.

Perhaps if that is a glimpse of your true writing style ..and you ever do write a book ..I might enjoy it cover to cover.

Hope to hear more from you! Take care.\


ps ..If you want some help thinking up questions ..I'm really very good!

katlupe 07/28/06 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marvella
i did go look at her posts this morning. sounded to me as if she is pretty much a newbie. :shrug: the mods dont seem concered- the thread is still here.

What I meant was, if you do like Angie mentioned, and check her other posts on the other boards, it sounds like a different person. So either she has another personality inside of her, or someone is logging on to her HT account and made that post this morning. She seemed concerned about her animals in the animal forums. Now on this one, she is poking fun at homesteaders.

Also she said this was her first post, yet it shows she has made 312 previous posts.

katlupe

charles burns 07/28/06 11:17 PM

I find it hard to believe you have had written work published. The piece you presented is badly written.
I thought it started with some originality but became a little too absurd. It is always a pleasure to read something a little off kilter but I just can not get over the ill chosen words, badly constructed sentences and lack of any structure.
If your wish to have other people do your work is sincere then you may like to consider the services of a professional writer to ghost write your posts.

treesonggal 07/30/06 07:17 AM

Kirsten, I need a job. I'm real handy with just about anything - hammers, sawas, building materials, woodstoves, gardening, butchering, housecleaning, cooking, washing clothes (I don't mind wringer washers!), and canning and preserving food. But, I must warn you. If you hire a couple handsome cowboys I just might have to learn how to lasso!

kirsten 07/30/06 11:19 PM

Well, I would certainly give some thought to hiring another michiganian. I won't be hiring for another year though but you could come out and visit. Sounds like your experience is mainly domestic though and most of ranching is vet work in my experience. Well, I might shortly have an extra house... I want my grandparents to move into it but if I am blocked in that regard, you might be able to come out and try to wrangle yourself a cowboy, treesongal.


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