Just for reference...Here is the "controversial" article.

Dave, I did not know that they were not informed about the well. That is not my job to give disclosures on someone elses property prior to closing.
Trees were cut 30 feet from old and new line. The back line is the same with both.

Goodness. What a lot of stuff to wade through just to find out how the tale is progressing!

Glad to see people at least TRYING to be patient with one another.

I am very curious to hear how it all works out!

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But wouldn't you expect anyone with half a brain in their head to have their well water tested before they bought the house? I don't know that it would have ever crossed my mind to tell them, because I would have never dreamed they wouldn't have tested the well already. I mean, DUH! (on them, for not testing.)

That's what I was thinking! Before purchasing this property, we had both the well and the septic tested. Just common sense!

We couldn't sign the final papers until the test came back on the well water. Our realtor took samples from every faucet and sent them in to be tested; the bank required it.

They paid cash, and did no inspections of any kind. The seller got what he wanted. Someone who did not want to pay for inspections.

Well, I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like quite a pickle! I would be very interested to hear how it turns out!

Ok, everybody, let this serve as a lesson!

There is a common saying amongst the legal profession....'He (she) who represents himself has a fool for a client'!

If you buy a property, spend the extra $350.00 to have an attorney represent you on the purchase or sale! It's almost always worth it!

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Thank you Pyrnad.
To some ..my questions are unacceptable. I have no idea what stake other people have regarding the questions I ask of you ..but obviously ..a great many people seem to think they have the moral authority to tell me what I can and/or cannot say or ask. As if that's not enough ..there are also some who misread into my questions things that never even entered into my mind.

Regarding the types and frequency of the questions I ask ..straight answers help me gain insight into the situation. I am not there ..you are. I do not know what you're going through other than what you tell me. I often don't understand exactly everything that's been said in each and every post ..I doubt anybody ever could.
Surely ..I never blindly assume anything ..I do not blindly support one side over the other. I support things that I feel deserve my support ..but I never do it 'blindly'.
When two parties are having a dispute ..I feel that 'outsiders' should ..for the most part ..stand middle ground until they've researched into the facts of the matter. Ultimately ..one party or the other will present enough compelling factual evidence to sway people either toward or away from one or the other parties particular role in the dispute.
If I gravitate toward your side of the dispute ..its only because you have earned it ..and not because I've blindly slipped toward you. To be sure ..when I speak in favor your side of the dispute ..you deserve it.

Anyway ..Knowing that you were angry because of the timing of the phone call gives me something to think about. I'd suspected as much ..but didn't know for sure.
Me ..Not sure how I'd have handled it if I were in your shoes that night? But I'd probably be quite upset myself if I got phone call at 12:30am complaining about something I'd been doing for years and years.
I firmly believe that you have a right to protect your livestock ..and you have a right to utilize your dogs in performing that task. However ..If I had just moved in next door ..and the barking dogs bothered me ..I might have called you too. Doesn't mean I'd be right ..just acknowledging the fact that I might have called you up the same as they did. But I would probably would not have bought a small one acre lot right next door to somebody so close.

I've been thinking lately that it shouldn't make a difference how many dogs you have in this instance. Because if 1 dog bothered the neighbor ..then it is a moot point that there are 17 dogs ..considering as the neighbor complained over just the one dog. I had been thinking that if one dog is barking every night ..then maybe the neighbor had a legitimate complaint ..and that dog needs to be segregated until more trainging is provided. But from your answer ..if I understand it correctly ..you've said there are nights were no dogs bark at all ..not even one. Truthfully ..that is very hard to believe ..so that's why I asked ..I wanted to hear that specific fact straight from you so that it would be completely clear in my own mind. I support your right to own and 'work' your dogs as they protect your livestock ..as long as they don't bark every night ..and when they do ..the barking doesn't go on and on and on all night long.

Thanks for telling us that you did indeed tell the neighbors about their well. I hadn't seen that information from you before ..perhaps I just missed it ..or something.
However ..the threads were about "bad neighbors" ..and their contaminated well doesn't make them bad neighbors. It just didn't make sense to me that their contaminated well would be a point of contention with you. Maybe its not ..probably isn't ..so maybe the contaminated well is one of those things I (we) should just ignore from now on.
More importantly however ..I hope your well isn't also contaminated. It could be ..since you live so close to each other.

Sorting through these lengthy, confusing, and sometimes obnoxious discussions ..I've learned what a Great Pyrenees looks like ..and appearance wise ..I think they are absolutely beautiful. I've also learned that you've sacrificed part of yourself into providing for and caring for animals that were severely abused. I commend you for the love you've provided to the animals under your care. Animals quickly learn to trust a genuinely loving & caring person ..and obviously ..your animals have learned to trust you. Too bad your neighbors don't recognize it!

Yea ..I've asked some questions ..sure I have. Won't burden you with anymore at this time either ..maybe later (or maybe not). Right now ..I've feel it necessary to go and respond to somebody else who seems to be overly critical of the questions I've asked you.
Again ..thanks for taking the time to answer questions. I appreciate it ..and admire that you remained civil ..and kept your cool. Shows maturity and reasonableness on your part!

[QUOTE=homebirtha]Never mind the fact that just about all these questions have been answered before. And some of them repeatedly. Just some folks don't want to hear the answers. Again, maybe a few of you who keep hounding with the same issues would do well to go back and reread the older threads or something. So the rest of us don't have to keep reading the same stuff over and over. Like the 17 dogs barking thing. Oi vey.
You say some of those questions were previously answered ..but were they really?
If they were ..I must have missed it. Sorry about that ..not my fault (since many threads and posts have simply 'disappeared'.)!
Since you seem so confident that those questions were answered HB ..can you explain which ones were answered? Please post links if possible ..that would make it easier on all of us. That way I'll be sure not to ask those questions again?
Will you also please explain which ones were not answered? That way ..it'll be easy to know which answers I'll need to patiently wait for.

To some of us ..the questions we ask are important as we try to sort through all the nonsense ..in order to accurately determine the factual particulars of the entire situation. I submit to you ..that if it were all perfectly clear already ..there wouldn't be so many people asking so many questions ..and you'd also most surely know which questions were already answered and which ones weren't.

I've got an excellent idea HB!
Rather than having you criticize me for the questions I ask ..I'd prefer it if you would just provide the answers.
Truly ..since your post claims that my questions had been answered before ..that shouldn't be too much to ask of you ..should it?

Will be waiting patiently for your answers ..and afterward ..we can hold hands and dance happily toward greener pastures.

didn't the dogs bark before they bought the property....
didn't the buyers hear the barking dogs before they paid for it?

During the day maybe ..but highly unlikely they would have come out to the house at 12:30am before they had bought and paid for it. They likely never had a clue that working dogs might bark at night.

Ignorance on their part? Yep. Pyrnad's fault? Nope!

yup... they learned dogs do indeed bark at night.
lol
go pyrnad!

It sounds like these neighbors of pyrnads purchased the property with blinders on. Gonna save a few bucks by not having tests, surveys or title inspection. They realize they have bought a lemon and had no one to blame but themselves. Instead of saying Yep we screwed up, they are taking their frustrations out on Pyrnad and her animals.They seem to be wearing the same blinders in their affairs with her as they did in the original purchase. Some people never learn to look before they leap.
I think these people will end up being able to leave their leach feild on Prynads property as long as it is working properly. I doubt they will be able to repair it if it ever fails.

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Yes Qwispea, just about every question you asked in that post had been addressed already. Do you seriously want me to pull up posts? Really? Give me a few minutes. But I know they were addressed, because I already knew the answers to those questions, and my only info has come from these threads. So they were answered.

As to why I didn't just answer your questions, Pyrnad already had, or I would have and saved her the trouble. Now, shall you lead or shall I?

Here you go qwispea. It took me about 2 minutes to find these:

In this thread: HELP!! New Neighbor Problems
Pyrnad wrote:
"Also when they moved in I let them know the well is bad, Extreemly high arsenic."

In this thread:
HELP!! New Neighbor Problems
Pyrnad wrote:
"They could have said something during one of the times we have spoke. We have coyotee in the area that are howling, hence the dogs doing their job. They are all in fenced in areas. What I am really complaining about is the way they handled it."
"They did not respect me by not mentioning it , and waiting until 12:30 am to wake my entire house up with the phone."

Now about that dance ................... :baby04:

Not sure about the point you're trying to make with the link about the 12:30am phone call ..because it really didn't answer my questions very well at all. Because clearly ..your link about the 12:30am phone call doesn't answer a single one of my questions in a way that might shed favorable light upon Pyrnad. It only shows that Pyrnad became angry that she was woke up at 12:30am. In fact ..all you've managed to show is that perhaps Pyrnad might have been unreasonable.
..But maybe that's what you inteneded ..who's to know for sure what you're up to with your persistent complaining about other people here.

Perhaps the barking dog (dogs) never really bothered the neighbors so much until that particular night ..and that's why they waited until then to say something. They may have been mildly irritated during some of the previous nights ..but not enough to make a big deal of it. Perhaps the barking during that particular night is the straw that broke the camel's back.

..Do you really believe it is wrong to call somebody up at 12:30am to complain about their barking dog (dogs) because the call might wake up the dog owner?? But yet ..its perfectly acceptable if the barking dog (dogs) keeps neighbors awake at whatever hour of night they might bark? Kind of like saying ..I don't care if my dogs do wake you up ..don't you wake me up to tell me about it! I need my sleep ..you don't!

Furthermore ..If the dogs bark everytime the coyotes howl as implied in the link you cited ..then perhaps they probably do bark all the time! That would make the neighbors complaint valid ..would it not?

A person could say that Pyrnad should be glad the neighbor called to tell them about the barking dog ..because it may have alerted Pyrnad to a potentially dangerous situation that she might otherwise have slept right through!

Again ..not sure what you're trying to do ..as it seems you're wasting more of people's time with your complaining than people are wasting your time with their questions. Moreover ..your contentious attitude toward other people for merely asking quesitons only provokes more questions. Maybe we'd all be better off if you ..instead of inciting hostility ..you just do what it is you said you wanted to do ..and that's patiently wait for Pyrnad to provide you with updates.

Now about that walk ..

Obviously ..and they didn't like it either.

Live and learn ..

Geez, what's got you all cranky? Dogs barking in your childhood too? snort.

I think most REASONABLY-MINDED people can see pretty clear answers there. If you didn't, then I guess you'll just have to keep hounding away. I didnt' realize you already had a reputation for this kind of behavior, until I read another thread last night. I realize now this must be a pattern with you, according to some other folks here. Now I know. Anyway, from the earlier threads, it was obvious that the phone call upset her because it was hostile and in the middle of the night, when they had talked several times during the day and the neighbors never said a word. Not sure how you don't get that, but lots of others did and didn't feel the need to continually hound someone already dealing with a traumatic situation. Your choice if you want to keep at her.

Not to me. Working dogs bark when there is a threat. If there is a threat once a month, they bark once a month. If there is a threat once a night, so be it.

Aren't you tired yet?

Edited to add: I was trying to keep it light. You're the one getting hostile. Perhaps you should examine what it is that has you so upset about Pyrnad's position in all of this?

Neigbors called at 12:30 to complain "That the dog barks every night and wakes them up." - pyrnad very first post

"They bark to keep the animals safe. Even if they were in the barn which is 20 Feet from their dwelling The would bark."

"My 2 Favorite dogs are in the house right now. I moved dogs outside today." 4-20

"I did a goole search and can not find any one by their names at previous addresses they gave me. Just goes to show know your neighbors!!!!" - OMG you searched google for someones name ! :-)

I was trying to find where you said they bark once a minute as a warning, but maybe it wasnt you since i cant find it ? eh ?

Quiet neighbors are good neighbors.

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