Just for reference...Here is the "controversial" article.

Yup.
They went to my Mom's last week. :baby04:

What's up with intentional community?

That is great.
I will PM you.

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Food for thought - why are some people so sure that pyrnad isn't telling the truth and why have they apparently made it their current mission in life to discredit any and everything she says?

Everyone tells a story in their own way and from their own point of view. I'm sure the neighbors would tell the story differently, as would all the public officals that have become involved. That doesn't mean that anyone is necessarily lying - just that they have a different perspective.

Never mind the fact that just about all these questions have been answered before. And some of them repeatedly. Just some folks don't want to hear the answers. Again, maybe a few of you who keep hounding with the same issues would do well to go back and reread the older threads or something. So the rest of us don't have to keep reading the same stuff over and over. Like the 17 dogs barking thing. Oi vey.

So...say you are a working farm...if I am looking at a piece of property next to you, and see that your barn is close to the property I am looking at...I should buy the property and rightfully expect that you will SELL me your barn, just because I think its too close and want you to stop putting YOUR animals in it? Are you for real?


So, if I move next to you, I have the right to tell you what to do on your own property then.

If I bought a piece of property next to the airport, do I have a right to expect the airport to shut down or move, merely because I bought next to them?

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That's what I'd like to know.
Heck, Pyrnad's an HT'er and she greets neighbors with fresh eggs, now I tell you what else needs to be said?!?!

I beg to differ. The septic is not on thier deeded property. However they have been using it for X amount of years. If that X amount of years is in excess of 20 (according to US common law)
they then have equitible title to the portion that they occupied. (i.e. the usage of the septic). In the same respect, if a squatter had installed a fence a few feet past their property line, on the neighbor's property, and it was common knowledge that fence was there for decades, the actual owner did not object, squatters can end up owning the stolen property as well. Or, if they shared a driveway or other access-after 20 years of continual use, original owner cannot then 'take away' the right to use that driveway.

Now they are not legal owners of record unless they go through a land court. However, they own it.

It is indeed the same exact law that applies to the taking of my Maine property as does to this case. I wouldn't have mentioned my property if it wasn't relevant.
Adverse Possession.
Adverse possession is not 'just' building a shanty on a strip of land and using it. It applies to a myriad of land uses. And it applies here. If you are interested, I can suggest case studies which prove the relevance.

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I sure wish she was my neighbor

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I think everybody needs to take A big deep breathe ,And then think. Before they post Negitivly on anyone. Please respect others here. How would you feel if you were in this ladies place??? I Am interested in hearing about the results from her end NOT bickering..

But these people have only been there a few months.

I hear that.................. :baby04:

I thought the "Maine rule" required that there be intentional trespass and there had to be exclusive and continuous posession meaning that you can't add the previous owners time using the septic to the current owner's.
http://www.moeland.com/adverse.htm

Again, that is incorrect. The legal term is 'tacking' and it does indeed apply when the property is sold to a new owner.

Referencing the Sail Loft situation; If it didn't apply, in effect we could have taken the shack and strip of land back from the person who paid the 850,000-as long as we attempted to do so within 20 years!!!!! Don't you think we would have?

Now, where you may be mistaken. If someone random takes over another person's squatting, prior to the previous squatter's continual use of 20 years, they would not be able to add thier time to the previous squatter's time.

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But doesn't the Maine law state that the trespasser be aware that he is trespassing?

Pyrnad, Have the neighbors or your attorney brought up a prescriptive easment thru adverse possession?

Lawyer says it does not apply. Property was split in 1990 so the 20 years has not passed by that or by single owner.

First off, pyrnad says the neighbors did not buy the septic with their property, therefore they do not own it. So how can they be held responsible for removing it ?

Second since part of the septic system is on their property, i think it may be possible to pose adding a leach field as 'repairing' their system, which might be allowd. But that again probably depends on how many city officals are pyrnads buds.

Further, I suspect it may be possible to claim that a neighbors barn 20ft from my residense would be a health hazard of some sort, if i were feuding with them.

I can also see problems with pyrnad telling the neighbors after they have lived there weeks "Oh, by the way, that water your drinking is contaminated. Ive been meaning to tell you but ive been busy"

"I should buy the property and rightfully expect that you will SELL me your barn, just because I think its too close"

No, i am saying that it might be a reasonable solution for both parties, if your interested in the enjoyment of life for both parties.


"So, if I move next to you, I have the right to tell you what to do on your own property then."

Its according if i have been doing something i shouldnt if people were around. I i was going around nude, and neighbors moved in, i think they should have the right to tell me to stop, dont you think ?

Shouldnt pyrnad be partially responsible since she bought a barn 20 ft from someone elses house? Shouldnt she have known that might cause problems ?

Shouldnt pyrnad take some responsibility for the septic , since she bought property with someone elses septic system on it ? (she supposedly didnt know either!)

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Why is it not a beef w/ the person they purchased the trailer/land from???

Your reasoning that it is pyrnad's place to right the wrong is illogical....if you buy a lemon of a car you take it back to the dealership to fix/get money back....your neighbor is not responsible for fixing it Not to mention if the deed/survey is incorrect it why people buy title ins.

If the people who bought the place didnt have the well tested or the furnace tested or the roof checked...its not the neighbor's responsibility....its the owner OWNER OWNER 's JOB...not neighbor!!! It is a buyer's right to have a home inspection and the seller/agent responsibilty for full disclosure....

The stupid people who are trying to sell their trailer have even offered a 1yr home warranty.....UM DUH? That still leaves them responsible for changes on septic and well....

Dave if you don't get it by now you never will.....the public is not responsible for one's own bad decisions and bad business deals....

"This is a Public service notice.
To anyone who moves to Alaska Please remember that it is VERY common for a neighbor to have about 60 to 80 dogs. Note this is NOT a typo 60 to 80 WORKING dogs."

Thanks for the warning. I never thought about that, but i always wanted to live in alaska for a year (maybe more if i liked it).

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Your right, I should have assigned more blame the seller over the septic, property lines, well , etc that he lied to them about.

Pyrnad deserves (imho) the blame for barking dog(s), which has been my focus.
And probably half the blame for escalating matters.

Heres a question, how far from the new survey lines where the trees that were cut ?
(i asked before)

Also, anyone who knows im drinking poisoned water and doenst tell me for weeks, is gonna be on my bad side for a long time.

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