Just for reference...Here is the "controversial" article.

And caused huge divisiveness on an otherwise friendly forum.That spills into other threads.

And has been made hugely apparent,agree or dont post.And snotty replies if you dont post in agreement of pyr.Hit the road jack basically.What a freakin' hate fest.
Sinking to new lows.

I dont believe that is the forums standards,replies better tow the line of the poster,and opposing views better NOT be posted.

A total waste IMHO of an otherwise well moderated forum.

BooBoo

what other theads? in this area or GC?

and the don't agrees have been very duly noted, at least by myself. And I've read all the links each has put up, and made up my own mind.

so now most of the ones that are interested are just wanting to be able to find out what happened next, without the very same stuff being brought up.
And they've asked nicely, at first = and when ignored some have been less nice.

I happen to be one of them. Apparently you are not. That is your perogitive.

There has been some good advice and personal stories on some of these threads that might apply to others with neighbors that move next to a farm, and don't like the smells, sounds, etc that go with it. They did not check it out enough - apparently.

Angie

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PM time,LOL!

BooBoo

It is not a statute of limitations as such, it is a requirement for adverse possesion, and no, I'm saying that if the owner of land A puts in a septic system and then sells part of that land as plot B and plot B happens to have part of Land A's septic on it, that the person who bought plot B should not expect adverse possesion laws to apply to the area of land in question.

The problem being is that many things are not reflected, or not reflected properly at the registry of deeds, thus one of the purposes of the land courts. See Andy's post. I hesitate to go further in this as too many people are touchy when these discussions arise.

Angie, one of the things Boo mentions is wholly true, if you don't unerringly side with Pyr, people get... upset. If you bring up valid points or questions, or heaven forbid post your opinion, people have 'issues' with you. See the original thread about the 'one' dog barking. I said it very early on, this is a fine case of both parties with chips on their shoulders. As always it escalates into absurdity. I think at this point we are missing something about the neighbors to help explain their actions. What if they sited along their septic field and assume that is their property line? I doubt the survey was done on the whole of their property, and as such, just using a side off their deed is worthless.

All in all this is a fine example of the reason you do your homework before buying property.

Thanks Chuck..

When i say im done, i meant for now. When something starts gnawing at me again, i post some more. I try to stay out of general chat, or i would just get sucked in 24/7. I prefer to just read posting. But as everyone should know, i very much dislike barking dogs. Espically late at night. Moreso the more that bark. Moreso the closer they are. The moreso the more the neighbors act as if it isnt their problem. Thats what brought me to these threads, the neighbors are living one of my nightmares. Literally. I sat for years as boy listening to dogs bark, where it was perfectly peacefull only a year or two earlier, trying to sleep at night, but couldnt, we didnt have ac, and i had to keep my window open all night. I did have a desk fan but it couldnt wipe out the noise of the dogs. I bet i spent hundreds of nights wishing evil things on my neighbors, as i layed in bed trying to cover my ears with pillows or hands. My dad wouldnt ask anyone to keep their dogs quiet, thats just who he was, he was like alot of you, its my/their land, they can let their dogs bark all night if they want. Maybe i didnt bother him. But it did me. And i bet it does others.

If pyrnad would have just been neighborly enough to solve the situation early on, she may have never had a problem. But no, she says, the laws on my side, i know people, i dont have to change anything. They will just have to deal.

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For the last time I paid for a survey of their property. All of it , not just 2 sides. Surveyor used their deed, as though he were doing it for them.

Dave, I never said "I know people" Please show me that thread

Do you know people ?

Did they want you to move the barn even partly because of property line issues ?

Why not just keep your dogs quiet so your neighbors can sleep ?

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Dave I know lots of people Please let me know who it is I am supposed to know?

No They wanted the barn moved becaus of animal noises, rooster crows, cows Moo goats bleat.

The dogs ONLY BARK WHEN A PREDATOR IS NEAR. They do not bark24 hours a day

So Dave who do you complain to about coyote or wolf noise????? MAybe a screech owl would drive you over the edge...

I have whipoorwills and loons and I am thankful for their noise....

Or do you live in the 'burbs where its Jonesy to complain about dog noise????

Certainly horny cat noise must drive you nuts...

God forbid a rooster or two...

I hear Everest is quiet 'cept for the howling wind...maybe you should go there....no one to listen to you complain.

Hard work is a certain cure for insomnia

Yes we have coyotes, but they dont go on all night (at least here its very sporadic). I had to chop the heads off my roosters because i couldnt take the crowing. Now i only buy hens. Yes i ate the roosters. It used to be the sticks. Now is almost like a suburb. I like birds, and LOVE frogs and bugs noises. (there was a pond out my window).

"Dave I know lots of people Please let me know who it is I am supposed to know?"
that there is one of those sneaks i was talking about.

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Love you too neighbor JAK!

I see you *CAN* spell some colorful (colourful) words correctly

When I first started reading about all of this I thought I knew who was to good guy and who was the bad guy. The longer I read the more I have learned.
There is no good guy. They deserve each other. We should all consider ourselves lucky they live next to each other. They could move in next to you.

No sneak Dave, just fact Show me the thread
Or tell me who I am supposed to KNOW

So are neighbors supposed to get rid of their roosters too? or just their working dogs? I'm trying to be civil here, really I am. But your argument just doesn't make sense. If a working farmer uses working dogs to protect a herd of goats, it doesn't seem fair or equitable to tell them they have to change the way they work because Joe next door is a light sleeper. Is it just the nuisance barkers that you think should be put away, or do you have a problem with any working dogs? I mean, I'm all for being neighborly, up to a point. But when it puts livestock at risk, it's crossing the line. KWIM?

You go girl. And thanks . Some folks understand the value of an LGD and some don't.

I see some of us are more well versed in the English language than others. Thanks to those that don't resort to swear words -with hyphens or not- to try to make their point.

All I'm trying to do is follow what's happening with pyrnad and her situation and there are some that keep getting the threads shut down. Unfortunately they probably don't know whom they are.

Geeze...

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On the contrary, I think they know exactly who they are and they're doing it specifically to get the threads "disappeared". Notice those of us not taking the bait. ;-)

Cluck cluck cluck

I have been following this and it's starting to get nasty again. Chuck has asked that we just let it go and start being civil. Is there any reason why we can't just ignore the one's who want to start arguements just for the sake of arguing? The thread would be much more enjoyable is everyone just quit retaliating. I teach my kids that if they can't be civil , at least they can ignore each other. There's no sense in having the same circular argument everytime.

Pyrnad, I can understand you getting upset by what is directed toward you. But I think you're enough of a lady (from what I've read from you) to take the higher road and to quit responding to their annoyances. You can't please everyone or make them understand what they don't want to. I do pray that your troubles with these neighbors are over soon.

Denise