Just for reference...Here is the "controversial" article.

Pyrnad sent me A P M showing A way to the article. And anyone who could read something else into it needs their brain checked.

I understand and that's fair enough.

I personally just would try to avoid entanglements with the court if at all possible as I think that "justice" isn't always just in small town America, and many times two parties that want solutions are much more wise than a judge who has nothing to lose.

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Ask away. I will be glad to answer for these creatures who did not have a voice, including the ones that passed in my arms because it was too late for them

I already asked my questions threads ago.
You just never answered most of them.
I got the feeling that you 'sneaked' around some.
Im done here, i have said all i have to say,
anyone who was ever going to learn anything has,
that article is VERY LONG, and very detailed, and very specific.
I will say i believe about 10% of what she said, and about 50% of what you said.

BTW the murphy woman posted that site on forums at ABC after they ran an story on the air about abuse of power in the animal welfare in texas, if anyone cares to do more searching.

But people in are sneaky, the best place to hide a lie is always between two truths.

And everyone lies. And everyone tells the truth. Sometimes.

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Sorry dave .No Lie and after what I did to help these creatures from her farm. You really do not want to go here or I am sure this thread will shut down too. Go Away, stop bothering me please. If you do not believsend me a pm with an email addy. I will be glad to show you how the animals lived.

I am laughing at this article! It is hard to take anyone seriously when they print slander like THIS:

Yeah, I have the feeling that the article will lead to more court action. It's a shame... I thought people moved out of the city to get away from this stuff... sheesh.

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Sorry tsdave under oath I tell the truth, so did 40 other witnesses in her trial.
You were not there. I was. It was TOO LATE FOR SEVERAL OF THESE ANIMALS. AUTOPSY REVEALED NO BODY FAT ON A SHEEP no she did not just get it. It was living off of it own resourses for months. It died in my arms 3 days after being on my farm kidneys and major organs had shut down. NO LIE JUST FACT

I think his point in the other thread(s) is that everyone is on the bash-the-neighbor bandwagon crying for blood when no one knows the other side of the story. We have a survey done based on Pyrnad's deed, what may have happened is that the person who wrote/filed their deed could have screwed the pooch. Why everyone gets so bent at hearing another viewpoint is beyond me.

Pyrnad, this is something to keep in mind, particularly in light of all the 'dig up their septic field' drivel... er 'advice' you've gotten:
You said the barn used to be part of their property some years ago before being split off and sold to you. Was the septic put in before that split by the owner who sold it to you? If so there is a good chance it may get to stay. Additionally, their deed may be in error in some way (which may taint yours too, it can get really messy). Maybe the parcel transfer is not reflected in their description? Maybe there is just a gross error on theirs (or yours)?
As an example, my current deed has one leg of the property listed as 962 feet instead of 692 feet. I did my own title search before we bought it as it did not close to the description's size. I found it's been like that since the parcel was originally split from the main property back in the 70's on the original deed!! It was overlooked by -at least- three surveyors from what I could find and I can only guess at how many lawyers and title auditors. Granted, I did my homework by pulling deeds from every parcel two deep from mine and went back to the original split off... anyway...

The point is no one knows what is influencing these people. They may leave and go seek family advice and then come back and do something idiotic in Pyr's eyes, but no one knows why. The sheer feeding frenzy and hate directed towards these people is amazing. All because each side decided to play hard ass over some dogs barking.

Thanks Dave.

I am reinstating this post by request. I am asking, however, that the bickering over this issue stop. It's just gotten ridiculous.

If you must criticize, (anybody) please go out of your way to be diplomatic about it. Thanks.

Survey was done from their deed. The rule here in Maine is 20 years with the same owner. I was willing to Move my property line so it stayed on their property, as their is no place to put in a new system. They no longer allow the pump out systems here. I am sick of fighting with these folks. They made a mistake by not having any inspections done prior to purchase. They did not knock on my door or I would have told them all that was wrong with it. It went way beyond dogs barking. Wanting my barn moved etc.

Thanks Chuck ,my pms were getting full. For those who want photos, I will send this afternoon as that takes a lot of time.

Thanks Chuck

And I posted a third party news acct.....so that it would be independent from the opinions of pyrnad and Ms. Murphy....

You can draw your own conclusions...

It may not fall under the adverse possesion rule if it was all done by one original owner before the split, but if you want to hack at their septic, that's up to you. Were I you I'd bring it up some facts to my attorney and let him do some case law research. I'd bet there was a good chance the answer might surprise you.

And here is another news article discussing Murphy's position....

http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.co.../1618035.shtml

notice the "animal horder" description

Pyrnad -

Bless you for helping those poor animals. I have a question unrelated to all this other stuff. How does the duck without feet manage? Did you make some kind of prosthetic for it, or does it manage to walk on its own?
I once saw pictures somewhere of a goose that lost its feet, the owner was able to fix up a pair of baby's sneakers for it to walk on. They would take this goose to visit places where there were handicapped children, they loved seeing the goose with artificial "feet".

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Well a couple things

1st anyone that doesnt think their is an occasional hooker or regular hooker at livestock shows/auctions etc is in denial.

2nd if this woman was not caring for her animals then why in the world was a champion Komondor(however you spell it) left by its owners with her knowing it was worth tens of thousands in breeding fees etc?

I too saw the special on the problems in Texas and the man they touted as the best welfare man in Texas also resigned because it was exposed he was a sex offender and thief.

I find the truth is in the middle. Maybe she had too many animals by some obscure law or just in the eyes of a do gooder. But I dont believe she was all in the right just like I dont think pyrnad was all in the wrong.

But if you apply the same standards to pyrnad as the other lady like too many dogs etc then i guess they need to take pyrnads dogs as well.

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What we have here...is a failure to communicate.

A very typical trait of animal hoarders is that they think their animals are worth a lot of money, when they really are not. So I'm not sure that I would believe this woman when she says this Komodor would be worth $350,000 over the course of its life?!?! I don't know many dog breeders who make that much over the course of all their dogs' lives, much less just one. And this is the same dog that was said to have weighed only 42 pounds when it was taken away. Also, it couldn't be a champion if it hadn't ever even been shown yet.

Her rantings on that website really do sound like those of someone with some serious delusions. She thinks that ALL the officials, ALL OF THEM, right up to the governor were in cahoots to take away her animals. Don't you find that a bit, um, farfetched?

Honestly, this is just such a sad story. Sad for those animals that were mistreated. And sad for this woman who clearly seems to need some kind of psychiatric help that she isn't getting.

And I had no idea that prostitutes frequented livestock auctions? Is that really true? When I first read that paragraph, I thought a hooker must be someone who catches animals or moves them into the sales ring, or something like that. Not actual hookers. lol.