What happened to Pyrnad's thread?

[AngieM2]

Prynad
I think you are being nice to them. It does appear that they are persisting in being the north end of a south going donkey.

I do believe that the University of Hard Knocks will have a high tution for their learning experience.

Good luck.

Angie

[Farmer Willy]

I also think you are being more than generous with your offer. Been reading this from the get go and just sounds like these folks got a bee up their butt and just don't want to let it go. Here's hoping things settle down for you there and best wishes for a tight strong fence, maybe with some nice tall thick shrubs on your side of it to block out theeee distractions.

[comfortablynumb]

I see pynads method now...

very good... offer them a cheap way out.

not cheap? compared to the cost of putting in a new septic system, 2K is a steal since they do not legally own that piece of dirt.

but they can, for the low low price of 2K and half the paperwork.

ow, pyrnad your a good chess player.

a fair settlement is offered and they refuse to take it, and doing so opt to fight a lost cause.

ooooooohhhhh yer a bad girl.

LOL

[Qwispea]

Originally Posted by pyrnad

I am doing fine. It has been a busy day for me.
For those who want to know here is the offer, that I had my lawyer send them(they got it today. The lawyer thinks I am crazy, but we will see.
They pay for 1/2 of the survey, 1/2 of my legal fees, also $2000.00. The surveyor will come back, pin off the leach field, so it is on their side fo the line, and the deeds will reflect the change.

Generosity and Wisdom are sometimes two different things. Yes ..perhaps Pyrnad is showing an abundance of generosity ..we don't know because we don't know the other options. However ..Pyrnad's offer likely displays a tremendous amount of wisdom. At least ..in my opinion ..I believe it does.

..And that is the Pyrnad I had been hoping would become manifest!

[mama2littleman]

Originally Posted by pyrnad

I am doing fine. It has been a busy day for me.
For those who want to know here is the offer, that I had my lawyer send them(they got it today. The lawyer thinks I am crazy, but we will see.
They pay for 1/2 of the survey, 1/2 of my legal fees, also $2000.00. The surveyor will come back, pin off the leach field, so it is on their side fo the line, and the deeds will reflect the change.

Pyrnad,

Wow, I'm astounded at your generousity. That is all I have to say bout this.

Nikki

[comfortablynumb]

$2k to someone with no funds could be 200 or 200k, when they cant afford the easy settlement they will wheel and fight, and dig a deeper hole.

then ya just... kick the dirt into the hole till they stop squeelin'....

checkmate.

[pourfolkes]

Wow, what an awesome gesture, Pyrnad. Most people would have let them pay for the survey and legal fees, but I have to say that I think you are being MORE than generous!! If these folks don't accept that offer, then they are opting to accept the consequences for their actions.

[Micahn]

If it was me I would say a even trade in land with them paying all fees like surveys and lawyer and anything else to get the job done.
Meaning a surveyor comes and takes however much of your land is needed then takes the same amount of their land and fix it so they own the land they need and you keep the same amount of land.
To me that would be as fare as anyone can be expected to be. That way you do not loose a thing and they gain what is needed. No way should you have to pay a penny for any of it. Anyone that would not go along with that chances are are not going to agree to anything else. It would be 100% fare to both parties without one gaining anything over the other.
It is not your fault at all that they paid for land that they do not own. It is not your fault that who ever put in their sewer system put it on your land.
If they stay nasty you could always make them move it then decontaminate the land as it IS contaminated now and then make it just just like you had it or better. I am sure that would cost them 20x what the above deal would cost them.

[DrippingSprings]

Just a small suggestion

much is made of the mods not getting paid and blah blah blah whine whine whine about how rough it is etcetc ad nausem


Like any other job. If they arent happy and dont want the job then quit so someone else can do it that will take the time and has the time.

Ive been really disappointed with how things have been handled around here. if the same standards were used in real life situations like at work it would go something like this

Joe Bob misses too many days. Mary jane is too opinionated. So lets just eliminate everyone else because we dont want to do the right thing and can the trouble personnel.

I dont want to hear about how hard the mods job is. Ive done it many times and on forums as busy as this one. I enjoyed it. Then when it got to where I was burnt out and needed a break I didnt go around wholesale deleting or banning with extreme prejudice to everyone. I let someone else take over. I took a break and even returned later when my replacement or another got burnt out.

If your sick of it all and dont want to to go through the trouble to do the job you need to step aside and let someone else who can and will do it for awhile even if only temporary.

Ive seen tons of useful info get deleted on here and who knows how much isnt shared on important subjects because nowadays your rule abiding informative posts will get deleted along with the troublemakers because someone doesnt want to play mod the way it supposed to be so why even bother?

Its like being in management. Some poeple think its only carrying a set of keys and a password for the alarm and thats all they do. They do it just for the title. But dont want the work. Many of the mods on all of these forums are that way. they like the power,the title etc but dont want to do the work.

Im not naming names so if your offended chances are this applies to you.

[AngieM2]

DS
small problem with your solution....
Chuck is the Admin, if he gets tired and doesn't do it - there is no HT.

If you don't like it, don't post.
If you don't like the forum, there are others.

So relax,, please.
Angie

[JAK]

I'm still routing for the naughty neighbours, not that it should matter.
They're like door number 3.

[Micahn]

Originally Posted by DrippingSprings

Just a small suggestion

much is made of the mods not getting paid and blah blah blah whine whine whine about how rough it is etcetc ad nausem


Like any other job. If they arent happy and dont want the job then quit so someone else can do it that will take the time and has the time.

Ive been really disappointed with how things have been handled around here. if the same standards were used in real life situations like at work it would go something like this

Joe Bob misses too many days. Mary jane is too opinionated. So lets just eliminate everyone else because we dont want to do the right thing and can the trouble personnel.

I dont want to hear about how hard the mods job is. Ive done it many times and on forums as busy as this one. I enjoyed it. Then when it got to where I was burnt out and needed a break I didnt go around wholesale deleting or banning with extreme prejudice to everyone. I let someone else take over. I took a break and even returned later when my replacement or another got burnt out.

If your sick of it all and dont want to to go through the trouble to do the job you need to step aside and let someone else who can and will do it for awhile even if only temporary.

Ive seen tons of useful info get deleted on here and who knows how much isnt shared on important subjects because nowadays your rule abiding informative posts will get deleted along with the troublemakers because someone doesnt want to play mod the way it supposed to be so why even bother?

Its like being in management. Some poeple think its only carrying a set of keys and a password for the alarm and thats all they do. They do it just for the title. But dont want the work. Many of the mods on all of these forums are that way. they like the power,the title etc but dont want to do the work.

Im not naming names so if your offended chances are this applies to you.

I understand where your coming from. However believe it or not it just does not work that way in real life.
They can not just let anyone be a MOD if they did chances are in no time they would have no one hanging around posting at all as to many bad MOD would get in.
If they take it serious when they hire a new MOD then it is a long and hard thing to pick a new MOD, The same can be said about firing one.
No way they can fire one just because they did not do one thing right. The right thing to do when they find out about it is have a good talk with the person and teach them the right way to do it. But if they happens someone like yourself will see nothing done and then post like this happens. I know I have no clue how the MOD department here is run. I do know how others are run as I have been both MOD and head MOD other places. Maybe the MOD here are not doing the job I really do not know as I have not been around here long. But the time I have been here I have not seen anything wrong with the way they do things. So far as far as I can see they do a good job of keeping the forums nice and clean like they should be in a place like this. No way they can make every person happy as the ones who think they should be able to say anything they want will never be happy. Even a good poster that never does anything wrong will never be 100% happy with all MOD as chances are they will not want a post locked or something at some time.

Anyway I notices you did not say in your post that you would be happy to help them out. The people complaining never do. 9 times out of 10 the people who complain about the MOD are just the type of people that make it so MOD's have to be around. If them people would just follow the rules then chances are they would never have a reason to complain. I am not saying your one of them people, I am just telling the facts of the matter as I see them.

If a poster thinks the MOD's are doing such a bad job they should do something about it. Posting that they are not happy with them is not the right thing to do. Going to the head MOD or the owner of the site is the right thing to do.
The next thing they should do if they do not like how the MOD do things is to make changes to the system. That might involve talking to the owner of the site about their ideas. They may also need to become more involved in the site by becoming a MOD themselves and working their way up the system until they can help in making the changes they think are a good idea.
Until they do that they really have no reason to complain about the system :-) It is very simple really. Follow the rules, Leave or get the rules changes as simple as that :-)

[JAK]

It is a tough thread. People should take what they think is of value and not take the rest to heart. If it is deleted it would not be a great loss. As far as potentially useful information goes, sometimes you have to throw out the baby with the bathwater. This subject deals with property and basic personality types. On both counts it is emotionally charged with multiple correct answers based on facts which cannot be expected to have been reported on objectively and completely. Everything is open to interpretation and misinterpretation. If there are certain subjects impossible to moderate this has to be one of them. As such I believe it is a poor choice of thread to complain about the moderators. Of course, in such a thread, it shouldn't really matter what I or anyone else believes or says. Take what you think may be of value, and leave the rest. Looking forward to your counter response. I'm sure I will find some truth and value in it. There always is.

[scott]

These threads have been EXTREMELY important to everyone here. It raises many questions that need to be asked and answered before buying property or settling disputes. Please try to see all the big issues being raised and see how YOUR state law addresses them. We need to see how this plays out and I do not want to see Pyrnad stop posting about this and I do not believe she needs to be forced into answering individual PM's. We can fill alot of brain cells with whats transpiring here.

[JAK]

Originally Posted by scott

These threads have been EXTREMELY important to everyone here. It raises many questions that need to be asked and answered before buying property or settling disputes. Please try to see all the big issues being raised and see how YOUR state law addresses them. We need to see how this plays out and I do not want to see Pyrnad stop posting about this and I do not believe she needs to be forced into answering individual PM's. We can fill alot of brain cells with whats transpiring here.

Sure the issues are extremely important, but people shouldn't be forced to take a side or take a walk. It would be different if Pyrnad was able to report the facts more objectively and less emotionally, but she can't. I am not sure very many people could. This thread should be either an emotional support thread, or an objective fact finding thread, but it can't be expected to be both. When it tries to be both it ends up being neither. You can blame one side, or blame the other, but this is this.

[quietstar]

Pyrnad: Your offer strikes me as longterm wise. After all, what is the value of peace at the place we call home. If this doesn't settle the issues, nothing reasonable will and the chips should fall where they may. You have a kind heart and represent the values I like in a neighbor...Glen

[harrisjnet]

I agree this thread or rather all these threads about Pyrnad and her delima(s) are brain food for all of us. It reminds me of several disputes we have had or wittnessed between different neighbors.
It goes back to the old saying. GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS. It's up to you whether you put a gate in the fence or not.
If you think you want to own a piece of land, check the zoning. If it is zoned for farming, Don't whine about the animals or the sounds of machinery and above all DON"T CUSS A FARMER WITH YOUR MOUTH FULL.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just be nice on this forum. I have been reading this for awhile now and just want to say what I do to my kids and grandkids. THINK WHAT YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE, KEEP YOU PIE HOLE SHUT.
How many of you readers of this thread have looked over your legal land papers or looked at a Plat map because of this thread? You need to find out for sure where your boundaries are and what the laws are.

KNOW before YOU BLOW.

It only takes one bad apple to turn wine into vinegar.

[Hovey Hollow]

Also, the thread has not been deleted. It has been closed. SO, it's not like it's gone, it just can't be added to. After it got closed it quit getting bumped back to page one, so it appeared to dissapear. It's on page 4 right now, and will fall back further as time goes on. It's got to get really, really bad to get outright deleted.

[DrippingSprings]

Originally Posted by AngieM2

DS
small problem with your solution....
Chuck is the Admin, if he gets tired and doesn't do it - there is no HT.

If you don't like it, don't post.
If you don't like the forum, there are others.

So relax,, please.
Angie

relax? who is tense? not me

Of course adding common sense can sometimes make others tense

So maybe its you who are in need of relaxation? I know I am just fine.

I offered a thought on a possible solution that DOES work even if you dont think that it does. I have watched it work on other forums I have visited for over 7 years with great results.

Of course I dont need your advise about not posting. I cut way back on that a long time ago when I offered friendly observations like the one above which you didnt like and was threatened by a mod just like you did above.

Of course noone ever wants to lose their seat of privilidge so I know it isnt personal. Youd say the same to anyone offering an alternative that could possibly unseat those in power.

Why would chuck get tired and quit? I see no reason for it. Of course this is like any other business. The owners job is only as hard or troublesome as his subordinates in power let it be. If the mods do their job as they should then chuck should get very rare situations where he is called upon to act.

Ive been in the upper management of large companies before. If my job was getting tiresome etc it was because I wasnt making sure my subordinates were doing their jobs. If I had to handle issues that was delegated to them then they werent doing their jobs. So they either did those delegated responsibilities or I found someone who could.

I was honestly with no serious rancor etc trying to offer a lil friendly advice that obviously rubbed you the wrong way.

You need to read that last line in that post you didnt like and youll see why I wont take it personal like you did.

have a nice day and good luck.

[bergere]

Originally Posted by mpillow

Farm act and neighbors thread....

I missed the ending on my thread too (oh well)....pyrnad and I had a nice chat on the phone last night....not to worry she has a good handle on things and we all may be very surprised at the outcome (because she is such a nice person)....we'll all just have to wait and see....

She still wants me to come and milk during PMS....and promised bail money LMBO! (a joke...I think )

Am glad you were able to talk to Pyrnad on the phone. Hope things turn out well for her.

Have been on this list a long time and was really shocked at the rude and childish comments on this Thread. Used to be a good place to be, with kind folks helping each other out. Not a witch hunt. Find it really sad.