What happened to Pyrnad's thread?

JAK · #61 07/20/06, 02:24 PM

Sometimes punishing everyone equally is the best thing because it encourages everyone to work together more than if you try to single some people out. Of course that would play into the hands of a troll, but I think in this case everyone is sincere in there intentions it is just a difficult subject matter and everything is vague and open to interpretation and misinterpretation. I think its just been a case of good people behaving badly and the moderators have been doing a good job by staying impartial and hosing us all down at once.

titansrunfarm · #62 07/20/06, 02:24 PM

I hope Pyrnad is doing ok. Maybe she can at least post what the resolution to this rotten situation was.

comfortablynumb · #63 07/20/06, 02:45 PM

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I still contend that simply

having been on a piece of turf for

longer than one's neighbors does not

give one a free pass to behave as one

wishes.

no one actually said that per se, it

was stated a working farm should

continue operating the way it did

before the neighbrs moved in, even if

said new neighbors are "uncomfortable'

with the farm atmosphere.

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And nobody deserves to go from

"I bought my dream house" to being left

with absolutely nothing. Nobody.

their willing trespasses

escalted the situation, which by what

was posted, pyrnad would have galdly

defused and settles with a reasonabe

neighbor.

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Seems like just about any

popular thread gets shut down/locked

not usually dissapeared. I think the

mods dont want to take the time to edit

out individual posts sometimes.

I was just goingt to say that. Edit out

the posts that are abusive and leave

the dang thread intact. Someones just

going to start another one asking where

it poofed to and that will end up being

based on conjecture because OOOPS the

original thread cant be referenced,

because its gone. Edit the posts dont

delte the whole thread.
Jeeze.

I'll openly volonteer to be a moderator here. it will be a easy job, not deleting stuff. Just give me the keys and I'll go right to work.

treefrog · #64 07/20/06, 03:06 PM

iunderstand how some would disagree with the moderators' actions. maybe we should dock their pay by ten percent.....

lets see, zero minus ten percent is ...? still zero.

pax
t.f.

MorrisonCorner · #65 07/20/06, 03:14 PM

Um.. regardless of whatever level of sweetness and light all parties might have been willing to share here, the fact remains that their septic is located on the wrong side of the line and "something" would need to be done about that. Not even the nicest neighbor would be insane enough to say 'sure, leave that puppy there and don't worry about it.'

Even if it wasn't bothering you or a problem with how you use your land, it surely will become an issue if they end up owning the property because their septic has been there long enough (whatever "long enough" is in your area). Or if the thing implodes. Or if... choose your problem...

So regardless of how nice or not nice these people are perceived to be... they're still in deep financial trouble. The trees will represent a few hundred dollars at best (unless the price of logs has gone up 20 fold in the past few years). The septic is the real (financial) issue.

The trees would be an emotional issue for me... I'd be quite upset if my neighbor decided to cut the trees which shade his house. He believes they belong to him, so he'd have every right to cut them. Heck, WE believed they belonged to him. But during a recent property walk we discovered that not only do they not belong to him, it looks like a serious chunk of property we've always just assumed belonged to him (otherwise it is a REALLY small lot) in fact... belongs to us.

Surprise!

Such a surprise we're going to have to ask this man where his septic is sited. I think his well may be on our land, which isn't that big a deal. But the septic would be an issue.

Bummer.

So it turns out that you can be the nicest of neighbors going back some seven generations and still have surprises crop up which may prove to cost one party a painful amount of money.

pyrnad · #66 07/20/06, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by titansrunfarm

I hope Pyrnad is doing ok. Maybe she can at least post what the resolution to this rotten situation was.

I am doing fine. It has been a busy day for me.
For those who want to know here is the offer, that I had my lawyer send them(they got it today. The lawyer thinks I am crazy, but we will see.
They pay for 1/2 of the survey, 1/2 of my legal fees, also $2000.00. The surveyor will come back, pin off the leach field, so it is on their side fo the line, and the deeds will reflect the change.

comfortablynumb · #67 07/20/06, 03:34 PM

you are to generous.
next time they will know you are willing to settle, and they will really screw you.

and there will be a next time. count on it.

what about the timber they cut?

pyrnad · #68 07/20/06, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by comfortablynumb

you are to generous.
next time they will know you are willing to settle, and they will really screw you.

and there will be a next time. count on it.

what about the timber they cut?

My insurance company will pay me, and then go after them.

I will bet you a penny they do not take my offer

Wags · #69 07/20/06, 03:41 PM

Does changing the property line affect your buildings (set backs) - or are they grand fathered in?

Shygal · #70 07/20/06, 03:42 PM

Why do you think they wont take the offer? I think its WAY too generous, you are giving them the land the leech field is on? I dont get it

ARMORER · #71 07/20/06, 03:44 PM

TY for the update and I hope you will continue to let some of us know the outcome-ARM

pyrnad · #72 07/20/06, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wags

Does changing the property line affect your buildings (set backs) - or are they grand fathered in?

The buildings are fine. It will not affect them.

pyrnad · #73 07/20/06, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shygal

Why do you think they wont take the offer? I think its WAY too generous, you are giving them the land the leech field is on? I dont get it

No, they will be paying $2000.00 for the land.
I do not think they will take it, because when I was milking she came out and told me I was nuts, and they are not giving me a penny.

Arkie1 · #74 07/20/06, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shygal

Why do you think they wont take the offer? I think its WAY too generous, you are giving them the land the leech field is on? I dont get it

Is there some legal challenge from the neighbors side regarding the septic system that's been in place for 16 yrs or previous knowledge of the contaminated well?

I always thought(I could be very wrong) that the statute stated 7 yrs for most forms of adverse possession so 16 yrs would definitely give them the advantage.

I think it's generous but also many of us are wondering why you would want to have them closer to your place?

This compromise seems so sudden & surprising considering the other issues that have been stated about their behavior.

Hovey Hollow · #75 07/20/06, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shygal

Why do you think they wont take the offer? I think its WAY too generous, you are giving them the land the leech field is on? I dont get it

I agree the offer is generous, but it sounds to me she is selling them the land the septic is on for $2000, right? Not cheap, per acre, but a cheap price to pay compared to what it would cost them to fix the problem.

pyrnad · #76 07/20/06, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkie1

Is there some legal challenge from the neighbors side regarding the septic system that's been in place for 16 yrs or previous knowledge of the contaminated well?

I always thought(I could be very wrong) that the statute stated 7 yrs for most forms of adverse possession so 16 yrs would definitely give them the advantage.

I think it's generous but also many of us are wondering why you would want to have them closer to your place?

This compromise seems so sudden & surprising considering the other issues that have been stated about their behavior.

Here in Maine the rule is 20yrs with the same owner.
It will be just the leach field and I can live with that.

I need this to be over

I am losing sleep at night.

Hovey Hollow · #77 07/20/06, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrnad

No, they will be paying $2000.00 for the land.
I do not think they will take it, because when I was milking she came out and told me I was nuts, and they are not giving me a penny.

Yep, Pyrnad got to it before I did. Your neighbors are really, really dense aren't they? If they don't take your offer chances are they won't get a buyer for their house. They are still trying to sell, right?
Do they have any idea what it costs to replace a septic?

pyrnad · #78 07/20/06, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hovey1716

I agree the offer is generous, but it sounds to me she is selling them the land the septic is on for $2000, right? Not cheap, per acre, but a cheap price to pay compared to what it would cost them to fix the problem.

Exactly the point.

mpillow · #79 07/20/06, 04:03 PM

Why wont they accept it?

Because their ignorance is still blissfull....

JanO · #80 07/20/06, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fantasy69maker

PYRNAD please for give me for what im about to do but I dont think she will get it if I dont.
The Following IS NOT the facts as I know them It is conjecture and a Illistration Its not even what I belive to be true.

JanO You missed the point TOTALLY what if,
When the neighbors called the police and talked with the dispatcher(her daughter) who called the sherriff (Pyrnads granddad) for advice? he confered with the judge(his golf and hunting buddy whos child is rasied on Pyrnads goatmilk due to allergies) they desides to cover Pyrnads butt? So they sent out the deputies(Pyrnads cousin and daughters boyfriend) with orders to shut them stupid cityfolks up?

Would you still argue that she was doing nothing Illeagle? was she? I doubt it. was it obvious? nope not at all. Im not talking about Pyrnad here remeber the above is a fiction worked out in my head but it is a possability thus I have to disagree with your statement Its inportant to remeber that the cops are people they make mistakes they have motives and they do not have the last word

fantasy69maker get a life!

Most of us live in the real world of "what is", not "what if" and you obviously have too much time on your hands. ( Sorry Chuck, I can't help myself on this one.

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Pyrnad, thanks for the update. You are far too generous, and it's appearant that your making an effort to settle this mess and put it all behind you.

I hope they prove you wrong and just take the offer. Maybe then you can have some peace and they will leave you alone.

Good luck