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06/29/06, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jillis
One thing I am loving about this ongoing saga is how pyrnad is able to keep slapping them down because she is in the right.
I really want to see these nasty "neighbors" defeated. They have some colossol nerve, IMO.
pyrnad, please keep posting and letting us know all the latest developments.
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Me too. I check this post almost every day. I too have had stupid neighbors, not nearly to this extent but even that drove me nuts. The way you are sensibly handling this crazyness and as Jillis said able to keep slapping them down because she is in the right just makes me feel good for some reason.
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06/29/06, 09:50 AM
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It sounds like this neighbor isn't wired right, so no piece of paper or discussion will work. What I would do is ask the surveyer to come out & re-do or verify the fenceline in question. Not the whole property. I would pay for it. But I would politely ask the neighbor to accompany you and the surveyer. Then document it with photos, and have the fence put up the same day.
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06/29/06, 10:03 AM
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It's a lot of extra work and expense, but putting barbed wire on the property line and then building a fence a few feet in to allow room for maintenance and 'patrol' might help prevent more problems in the future. Even if these people do give up and sell out, it doesn't sound like they would sell to you just for spite and the next neighbors might be as bad or worse.
Sorry to hear about all the hassle you're having to go through. It's always amazing to hear about people who move to the country and then don't want it to sound or look like country.
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06/29/06, 03:24 PM
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A for sale sign went up yesterday on their property. I have been meeting with my lawyer yesterday and today. They owe me more money than they are selling it for due to the timber trespass. My insurance company put a lean on the deed today and so did I. I may just end up with the property as my insurance company was dealing with them for the tree money. They also owe for the fence, and survey. My insurance company and their legal folk are having a sit down meeting with them as they feel that they should not have to pay for the trees . I have been asked to attend this meeting. It wil be after the 4th of July. I think they will be leaving town and not coming back.
I will let you know what happens. These folks just do not get it. I did not think anyone could be that stupid at a title search the lean woul have been found and they would have no money for the sale of the house.
So you know they paid 30,000.00 for it in March, 2006 and have it for sale at 50,000.00. It was for sale for 2 years before they bought it.
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06/29/06, 03:32 PM
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Well, here's to a quick sale, and that sufficient to cover your losses and aggravation -- but it doesn't seem that way.
I'll be watching to see how this goes. There is nothing more aggravating, irritating, frustrating, and all the other "-atings" you can think of, than clueless, greedy, destructive IND (that's Idiots Next Door).
All the best,
Pony!
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06/29/06, 03:34 PM
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Sounds like progress  How many bales of hay will the trailer hold
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06/29/06, 03:38 PM
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Sounds like progress  How many bales of hay will the trailer hold 
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My thoughts exactly.A shed for goats. A room for chickens(stinkg meat chickens) and the rest for hay  I could get a years worth of hay in there.
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06/29/06, 03:50 PM
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You go girl! I hope you get their land!
Such sweet revenge....
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06/29/06, 03:55 PM
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Sock puppet reinstated
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That is great news!!
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06/29/06, 03:55 PM
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At least with the lien they will not be able to collect any money until the lien is cleared. The lien in itself might scare off any potential buyers. You should seriously consider making an offer on the land in lieu of the lean. If you have a judgment against them I would try to get the land!
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06/29/06, 04:50 PM
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[QUOTE=pyrnad] "They owe me more money than they are selling it for due to the timber trespass. They also owe for the fence, and survey. My insurance company and their legal folk are having a sit down meeting with them as they feel that they should not have to pay for the trees. These folks just do not get it."
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ALLLLLRIGHTTTY.........then "who" do they think should have to pay for the trees? YOU?!!!, Your insurance company??? The folks down at the end of the road in the next county over???? Heaven forbid if the answer should come around to "THEM"......maybe they'll try and pay for the fence and survey with the "ill-gotten gains"??? You're RIGHT......absolutely right.....these "folks" just do not get it.......but it appears that they tried to get "yours".......unfortunately, it will be a long, hard uphill road before you actually get "theirs"......meaning taking possession/deed to their property; but the best to you in the waiting game.
What a nightmare.....
Regarding citilivins' suggestion as to making them an offer on their place; ASK THEM TO PLEASE PAY YOU TO TAKE IT OFF THEIR HANDS!!!!
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06/29/06, 06:36 PM
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Congratulations Pyrnad for standing up for yourself and not giving up on this!
I would love to hear their side of the story and how they think they could get away with this...
good luck, hope it all goes easier from here on out...
Beaux
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06/29/06, 09:04 PM
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LMAO a lien on there house/property.I love it!
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.Wonder if there getting any smarter.Sounds like there getting educated one way or another,real fast.
Wondering how many acers they listed,when trying to sell.
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06/29/06, 09:14 PM
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Hope you get it. Serves them right.
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06/29/06, 09:50 PM
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Qwispea,
It isn't unusual for some one to put a lein on anothers property. Some home owner associations can do so if you do not pay your dues each year. It is simple for them, they just call the court house and they will send you a letter notifying you there is now a lein on your property.
The reason I know is it happened to me. I didn't even know about the home owners assoc. until I got the letter.
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06/29/06, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwispea
Out of curiosity..How could you and your insurance company put a lein on their property without a criminal proceeding? It isn't just a simple thing to attach a lein to somebody's personal property! Did they just up and volunteer? Do they owe a mortgage? If so..What about the lein the mortgage company holds?
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Here in Ohio it is indeed an easy thing to put a lien on a piece of property.
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06/29/06, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwispea
Out of curiosity..How could you and your insurance company put a lein on their property without a criminal proceeding? ...
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You meant civil proceeding right? Otherwise the state would hold the lien from a criminal proceeding. They are the plaintiff in a criminal case. Not the victim.
And depending on the laws in the state, they may be able to file a lien prior to a suit (typically limited) a good example is a mechanic's lien in some states, they could also file the suit and ask for an ex parte lien, particularly since the property went up for sale. Though I would like to know how two liens got filed by both the insurance company and pyrnad and if sound who has priority. Additionally, why would her insurance company file a lien instead of filing a claim with their insurance co.?
As far as the mortgage, it typically has priority over any other lien. Additionally, if the owed amounts are more than the sale of the home, I wouldn't be surprised if they filed bankruptcy either. Look forward to that mess.
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06/30/06, 08:06 AM
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On the contrary, it's quite simple to put a lien on a property, particularly if it's put up for sale. Contractors bilked out of pay for their work do it all the time.
Pyr, I'm so glad they're bugging out. I think I would be offering some kind of money and settlement for their property, just to get rid of them, and to keep anyone else from moving in. If you block the sale of the place with these liens, I would worry that they'll just stick around longer to make your life even more difficult. Sounds like they are in over their heads anyway if they're listing it for such a ridiculous price. I hope you can get the property so you don't ever have to deal with idiots like them again. Whew, what an ordeal.
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Originally Posted by Qwispea
Out of curiosity..How could you and your insurance company put a lein on their property without a criminal proceeding? It isn't just a simple thing to attach a lein to somebody's personal property! Did they just up and volunteer? Do they owe a mortgage? If so..What about the lein the mortgage company holds?
Just curious..
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06/30/06, 08:20 AM
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If there is a mortgage on the property, it is likely that the mortgage holder has also been notified about any liens. Depending on how well their loan is protected; it is likely they have first rights; it will be interesting to see who gets what at the act of sale.
Hugs
marlene
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06/30/06, 09:30 AM
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If the mortgage holder has priority, probably not. Payment typically go by priority, so the mortgage gets paid first, then lien 2 then lien 3 etc.
-IF- she has a valid lien on the property in excess of the property's worth I'd likely foreclose on them if they did me wrong. But as I said, the mortgage gets paid first from the sale, thus my comment on the probable bankruptcy filing.
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