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  #181  
Old 07/05/06, 07:53 AM
 
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You are not alone. We share a joint fenceline with an idiot. Last year he called the cops saying our side was hooked up to dirrect current { dugh } it was hooked up to a fence charger. He never once called to say he had to fix his barb wire and could we turn the fence off. This happened 2 times.

This year he decided to drop our whole line of fence insulators and all. He never called wrote a letter etc. We had even tighten up his fence in spring reset some posts ect. We had replaced 30 plus posts over the last 10 years or so that we had been sharing the fence line.

Well we went out and spent 1200.00 on new field fence and posts. We also returned the favor and pulled 15 of the 30 posts we had replaced and dropped one of his lines. Put all the staples in a bag and tied it to the fence. We also sent a certified letter stating what we did and what he did . I took pictures and had them dated. So here I sit waiting for him or the cops to show up. I think I will have an interesting day.

Good luck , Patty
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Old 07/05/06, 10:39 AM
 
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Wow. I’ve been offline since last Friday while going camping with my kids and grandkids. Checked this thread this morning. Wow. After working for and with attorneys and law enforcement for the majority of my adult years, I can tell you that unless you are directly involved as an attorney or interested party, you seldom know exactly what is what. Frequently, the person who is most directly involved doesn’t even understand all of what is going on. Legal language isn’t exactly, “See Spot. See Spot run.”

I have no idea what the laws concerning timber are in Maine although the link provided earlier was very helpful. I don’t know how many trees were cut down or how the lien was placed. I do know that I feel bad that Pyrnad is going through such an ordeal. IMHO, trying to nail her to her own tree stump in an effort to look wiser than everyone else is – well, unpleasant.

She gave us a description of what happened. I believe what she told us. I don’t care about the legal points – that’s up to the timber people, insurance people, sheriff’s people and all the other people who deal with that. I hope the hearing this morning will resolve this issue for her.

BTW, every single one of us can be shown as inconsistent when our words are scrutinized ‘cause we’re all beans. You know, green beans, kidney beans, lima beans ….. human beans.
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Old 07/05/06, 11:29 AM
 
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Very good post, Katie. Maybe this will put an end to the debate.
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Old 07/05/06, 04:18 PM
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Any update, Prynad?
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Old 07/05/06, 06:46 PM
 
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Thanks ..and I agree. I hope Pyrnad get's this burden off her back very very soon. I'm done with the 'legal' questions ..as its none of my business except what Pyrnad is willing to share.

Best wishes to Pyrnad ..
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Old 07/06/06, 02:23 AM
 
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Any update, Prynad?
i'd love to know. so we can get the armchair lawyers back on thier meds.....
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Old 07/06/06, 08:42 AM
 
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Maybe pyrnad needs some down time to recover from the meeting yesterday, can ya'll just imagine what a meeting with her neighbors would be like?

Hope everything is okay pyrnad.

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Old 07/06/06, 08:23 PM
 
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I am starting a new thread. Bad neighbors, get what is Due
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Old 07/11/06, 02:11 PM
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If I were building the fence, I'd back off a couple inches from the boundary... set pipe in concrete every 10th post, string wire, and t-post it...

and offer to buy them out...

Anytime land comes up for sale next to you, the best move you'll ever make i this life, is to BUY IT! Otherwise, you divorce yourself from ever complaining about baddish neighbors... the odds are always negative that'll you'll end up with an urban refugee...

an oldtimer way back was in the same boat... neighbor didn't want to pay his share of a fence (they both had cows), so the neighbor built the fence a foot on his side... second neighbor thought that was swell, till the first neighbor said he'd shoot any cow he caught trespassing (and everybody knew he was ornery enough to do it...) cheap neighbor coughed up the dollars...

One of my neighbors wanted me to share a fence. My pine plantation was marked, but not fenced, so I told him if any of my pines wandered across my boundary road, into his housing development, I'd pay for damages... he built it all out of his pocket... funny thing, he put up the fence all around his development to keep bad folks out... I reminded him if they were bad in the first place, a fence, gate, or lock wouldn't stop em...




Remember... you've got to live with these folks... even if you put up a solid concrete wall fence, they'll still be there...

my condolences... heartfelt condolences...
That's the best thing I've read so far:

If one of your pines wanders over onto their property...lol...that's a hoot~!!
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Old 07/11/06, 06:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Qwispea
Pyrnad I am sorry I became a 'pest'. It wasn't what I wanted ..I just get to wanting to know every little detail ..and it gets a mind of its own ..and turns out not so good. ..You deserve to be able to enjoy your property without neighbors like that ..and you certainly don't need my 'qwisitive' nature to burden you with more grief.
Again ..I am very sorry for my too many nosey questions.


I wish you the very best!
Nosey questions are fine. I take no offence. My time on the computer is limited. I am very busy on the farm. This will end soon.
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Old 07/12/06, 01:57 AM
 
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Not if it was just posts with plastic draped over it! Pulling up the posts by hand ..and throwing the items back into the yard ..is not destruction.

Come on folks! Comprehend please!


Also ..who said a survey was done? ..other than the one done 15 years or so ago?
Didn't Pyrnad say that the previous surveyor merely went over the previous records?
I was understanding the angle you were after - until you got to here.

Think it is you who does not understand now, & thankfully have backed down from the confrontation you were in.

Destroyinmg a fence that is not yours is destrying it. Pulling up stakes & tossing it aside - no matter what it is made of - is destroying it. Can I take your car, turn it upside down, remove parts & spill them on the street, and claim that I did not harm your car??? Even if it would be a 1978 model that ran on 3/4 of the cylinders & leaked oil - can i say I did not real damage to your car because the parts are all laying right there?

No. You don't have 'parts', you have a 'car'.

Likewise, posts in the ground, with some twine or what not is a 'fence'. The parts, tossed in a corner, is not 'the fence'.

As to the case:

Once the state forestry service (in a state with a strong forestry service) and the police & the insurance company are involved in, I will assume a lot of stuff has gone on that you, I, and the original poster are not aware of exactly. Or can word out to the Nth proper legal utterance.

Leins are placed on property to settle claims, and clearly there are issues going on here, & with property quickly up for sale, it should not be too hard for the above qualified folks to place such a lien.

The outcome of the lien can be a _long_ ways away.

Any your questioning of how it all came to be was really interesting, as I was curious as well.

But, not to the point of badgering the original poster & others. Probably only 1 or 2 lawyers involved would be able to answer that, exactly.

imho.

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