Idaho?

guess ya'll aint bin here recently, 7-16,000.00/acre for bare ground no lectric or phone on proprety and if any timber its been cut over so nothing marketable, hillside so not good for farmable, and in some places water table is over 800 feet deep if you hit water at all. Some properties are on the market this past month for a totatl of a few hours, kalifornicators wanting to have something to run to in case the end of the world comes [they been reading JW Rawles www.survivalblog.com probably].....

as for the Clearwater county lady from LA and seattle, the history of the weippe area is a couple families moved there from west virginia about 100 years ago.... and there was a few long winters a time or three.... so the family tree didnt fork to often for awhile...... same with some of the folks in idaho county but ya gotta know who they was cuz da population has grown faster here than over there.

The farm equipment auction over yonder to Cottonwood last weekend had over 700 bidders, and half of them was in shorts and sandals.... no good deals, and the old junkie stuff sold for more than new tools..... guess that means so people have more money than they know what to do with.....

Land prices over by cottonwood aint to bad niether, i was looking at 160 acres with about 2 million feet of timber on it for $650,000 and its still available shoot potlatch dont even want it if that tells ya anything..... not enough there for the asking price. but i spose this area still beats cascade and donelly and mccall for now as to price...... i heard today that Carole king has her place up for sale in McCall, 160 acre for $19 million but it has history, and a recording studio..... and Steve Miller lives close by there too [some people call me the space cowboy.......] yeah the realestate buble is about to burst, but not here for some time and not til the kalifornicators move in, demand paved roads, police patrols, fire districts, herd law districts, stiffer planning and zoning and more and more and more just like where they came from [or got run out of] they put up no tresspassing sign, no hunting signs, and whine that the deer have eaten their gardens and flowers..... So the price is worth what you pay for it, I am an endangered specie, a native Idahoan as are my wife and children.

as for the job market here, better bring it with you cause you might get more than minimum wage here, but not much more, and the closest Mickey D's is 70 miles in Lewiston. People bad mouth how there isnt anything for jobs here, all the while driving that 70 miles to buy from the "Great Wallmart of China" and wonder why the drygoods store went under..... but hey Like bare said [he usta be a semi-close nieghbor of 20 miles away 20 years back] bring a pile of the cash, cause you'll need it to survive here til ya git be like the rest of us......

blu3duk the radical

William

central idaho just off center of the cultural hub of the universe

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Upon the plains of hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who when on the dawn of victory paused to rest, and there resting died.
- John Dretschmer

I used to know a lady who lived in Orofino. I was there one year over the 4th of July weekend. Helped her pick bushels of sweet cherries off her tree. She grew onions and tomatoes the size of cantalopes. I always thought that Orofino was garden heaven!

Mary

the one item i did fail to mention is that 2 of the counties here in Central idaho for sure are raising assessments this year and probably next as well those being Lewis and Idaho counties, with peoples taxes expected to raise by as much as 15%...... which isnt much but it will one of these days catch up with the rest of the several states, though not as quickly.

My sawmill is sitting on a fellas place who told me his folks in Austin TX built a house in 1963 for less than the current years taxes on it, so it mght be a long while before it catches up to something like that though, but if you fail to pay the rent to the county/state they will after 3 years evict you and place someone else on the property who will acquiesce to the power mongers in control..... who allow graft and coruption in the county..... along with nepotism.

blu3duk the chained radical

William
Central idaho where the climb-it is always up.

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Upon the plains of hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who when on the dawn of victory paused to rest, and there resting died.
- John Dretschmer

Didja see the other thread on the assessments that just came out the other day from Bonner county? I can hear the wailin' and knashin' of teeth from way up here!

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25,345 Americans wounded in action to date (your guess how many have died since and been uncounted)
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We live in north central Idaho. Here are some highlights:

Gas about $2.99

Electric about $.085 KWH or less depending on what company

Low vehicle registration; I pay about $80 a year for my two 90s vehicles

Most entry-level jobs (restaurants, fast food, grocery stores, etc. are paying better than minumum-wage; $6-6.50 an hour

I think my taxes were about $451 last year and will be about $503 this year

We have a 2 bd, 1 ba, 1000 sq ft stick-built house with a large shed, chicken coop, greenhouse, 40 GPM shared well, pond, fenced garden, raspberries and fruit trees. We are about 12 miles from "town". We paid $71,000 two years ago and an gaent told me we could probably get $100,000 now. The closer to town you get, the more expensive.

Homeschool laws are friendly. If they are enrolled in public school attendance can supposedly be enforced, but I have never seen it.

Gun laws: open carry state, easy to get a CCW permit as long as you have no disqualifying criminal history or are crazy.

Most people here are Republican and/or conservative. We do have 2/3 majority of Democrats on the county commission, but they appear to be conservatives. The constitutionalists kind of caused some disruption in the Republican party.

Most people are failry anti-Californian unless they want to sell one their property for more than it's worth.

People are somwhat close-minded to new things and new people.

Not sure how food costs compare. In town you can get a decent-sized burger and good serving of fries at a restaurant for about $5.95, if that helps.
We buy farm fresh milk for $2 a gallon. You can get farm fresh eggs for $1 a dozen.

My car insurance through Progessive is about $800 a year for my two 90s vehicles; that's full coverage.

My internet access is $20 a month with a local company whose owner I have met and whose address I know.

There is alot of good hunting here: elk, white-tailed deer, turkey, quail, pheasant, grouse, chukar, cougar, bear, etc. Fishing too: steelhead, salmon and the rest. Licensing costs are low.

Sales tax is 5%, which is easy to figure (5 cents on the dollar)

Our county has no building codes, except for septic. The power company will not connect you unless you have an inspection.

Cost of having a house built is supposedly anywhere from $80-90 a square foot. Manufactured homes and trailers on 5 acres lots are common.

Health care wise we have a few hospitals in the general area. Most have family practitioners who man them. You probably have to go to Spokane or Boise for specialists.

That's all I can think of right now.

I am willing to answer any questions you might have.

If it's not too personal, where are you located, Bare and Blu3duk?

We are between Grangeville and Kooskia.

Blu3duk, mentioned Lewiston. I think it has a good healthy economy, but I'm not sure about real estate prices. It's also called "the banana belt of Idaho" since it rarely sees any snow in winter.

Property tax update - I just got my assessment and they raised my taxes by 47%.



It would have been 52% except the homeowner's exemption went from $50k to $75k.

Prop 13 was one thing they got right in California.

But like my dad says, "It ain't Simi Valley."

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Suffice to say, if anyone tells you they are more north in Idaho than me, they're lyin'.

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Iraq casualties
3,410 American deaths to date in Iraq
25,345 Americans wounded in action to date (your guess how many have died since and been uncounted)
$424,000,000,000 to date

so is everyone who's moved to Idaho a Californiacator, or just those who demand all those things above?

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in response to the question of where i am located, just west of the cultural hub of the universe [kooskia]

as for the Kalifornicator question.... yes. them which demand things be like from whence they came oughta go back if it was such a good place to be from.... and ive known such people since i was eye high to a grasshopper....

Those who accept this area as it is are welcome and alwys have been, those who come and need to change it well they are much use anywhere, and cost the most to take care of and in the long haul they get disgruntled and move somewhere else and cause trouble there too..... but they never go back to where they came from that was so great for some reason.

Now i expect that there are some changes that are a natural progression, and i have been told that on my tombstone the words "does not play well with others" might appear [besides pepperoni and olives] but as much as people claim to be edumacated and can read they somehow fail to read the part of the LAW that says this country is suppose to be a REPUBLIC and not a demon- acracy which means dont make me pay for what you want when you get here with a limited liability vote.

And i know right where bare is cause 20 years ago i looked at the property next to him up the road....

William

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Upon the plains of hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who when on the dawn of victory paused to rest, and there resting died.
- John Dretschmer

I am one of those Californicators who came here over 10 years ago. It has taken some time, but I have come to like the way of life here and really don't want it changed.

As a matter of fact, I posted a thread about the "Western Way of Life" going the way of the dinosaurs. It seems there is always someone in Congress who is trying to pass laws that will change our way of life here.

I think they just passed something in the Seante to preserve the right of people to ride horses and other equines in the forests.

I think Right to Hunt legislation just failed recently.

Anyway, I hope you find the information you were looking for on Idaho.

I was a Californian, not a Kalifornicator. I changed my plates and driver's license the first week I was here. I'm leery of telling people (in person) where I'm from when I'm first meeting them. I don't want stereotypes to rear their ugly heads because I'm NOT your standard Californicator. (If I wasn't Christian, I'd probably lie and say I was from Oklahoma. )

I don't see the need for "improvements", i.e., Highway 95 being widened, a new WalMart going in down in Hayden (go to Post Falls or Ponderay!) I like things the way they are but they're gonna be changed right out from under us. I like it that things move slow, that you meet people you know at the video store and the library and talk for ten minutes.

I like it that you have to drive slower on a dirt road. That you can shoot in your backyard and have chickens roaming your property.

I even like the cow bellowing for her calf at 2:00 AM from the neighbors down the road. I don't care that the farmers in Rathdrum burn their wheatgrass fields, even though we get the smoke.

Lisa's dog Guinness herding my car every time I pass her place is amusing, not irritating. I don't think, "Why doesn't she LOCK THAT DUMB DOG UP?!?!"

I just figure that's the way things are here and it's not up to me to change it.

I DON'T like the property valuations increasing or having to dodge dumb tourists in their humungous pig boat RVs on the road, or having to wait through two lights in Coeur d'Alene because people are looky-looing.

Whaddya gonna do?

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I grew up in Post Falls and it was a huge city of about 1800 people if you included the farms out on the prairie. There was no freeway going thru it, that was all houses. Down town was across highway 10 a few blocks. There was the grade school on Mullen and the high school up across the football field. The prairie was all wheat and grass fields, the hills across the river were covered with trees. Coeur d' Alene and Spokane were far off and seemed to this kid a very long trip. I still have sisters there and my mom and brother are buried in the cemetery up on Spokane Street. The last time I was back there, I was shocked! What happened to my home town? It vanished. There were houses everywhere and I hear it is getting worse. My mind's eye still sees it as it was in 1967 and the last time I was there, I felt like I had never been there before!