How do you do it? Budgeting

I think it has something to do with New age sprituality? I thought He/she? was into wichcraft maybe also New age?

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This has taken the strangest turn. I generally don't agree too much with MC but I suppose I am too trusting as well. I just assumed "she" ("he"???) was what "she" said "she" was. I have no one on my ignore list and will not change that but I certainly will only take MC's posts with a chuckle now. I've always wondered what "she" was doing on a homesteading board when "she" didn't seem to have much respect for homesteaders in general.

If it matters, I for one am exactly the person I portray. I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one and if I've made a mistake. I'm not a very good liar though and wouldn't even know where to begin. Makes me feel kind of silly though for posting actual pictures of our homestead and kids. I guess I'm not doing much to downplay the "just fell off the turnip truck" attitude for us country bumpkins. I really do feel silly. I still hope I'm not the only one that hasn't made everything up and there is only a minority of liars around.

Rockyrooster I like your uniqe user name, I am dying to know did I make the cut? are you still reading me? LOL

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I dont blame Rocky rooster if I was smarter I would have a few people on ignore around here myself,but I want to be able to have the oportunity to argue my points or defend myself I cant imagine having a thread of mine have a few posts I cant read by the likes of MC or you on it. Most know better and jump to my defense I have a few guardian angels on this site but I still would feel the need to defend my views or myself, myself.

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What marketable skills do you have?

Have you considered working away from home? I live in a very poor area of South Mississippi and work in the gulf og Mexico on an Oil and Gas Platform. I work 14 days and am off 14 days. Many people travel from all over to work out here. Its good money (32,000-75,000+ a year) for 6 months a year of work.

Also f you could work construction they are begging for workers on the gulf coast and NO area as well as offshore on damaged oil and gas platforms.

And you have no expenses while at work....

And So predictable to see you jump in to MC's corner and brown nose. And rise to your own level again....And defend lunacy and pathology. You rock qwispea

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JNAP......You should be very well aware that it is against forum rules to reveal the contents of PM's?? Why do you keep doing that?

[QUOTE=Jen H]One of the local farmers, a really nice guy, has people paying a full dollar more a pound for his honey crisp apples than other honey crisp apples are going for. When his apples hit the store, little fliers and signs also appear showing a cute little barn surrounded by happy apple trees. He's in the middle of the photo wearing kind of grubby clothes and smiling. He's sold a vision of a wonderful little farm where you can come out and commune with nature and pick some incredibly wonderful apples. His fruit isn't any better than any other fruit out there, it's his brand that sells out and sells at a higher price than the competitors.
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If he was MC he would have just bought the apples as a middle man from other growers to mark up and then had a picture of himself taken in some Amish mans orchard with all the right things in the photo.

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How did I know you would. this is similar to what I just posted on the apple man before I read this.

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"brown nose"? "lunacy"? "Pathology"?

If you could look beyond your own moral perfections..you'd have noticed that MC posted some very excellent suggestions.
Anything beyond those suggestions..either regarding the morality of 'virtual reality'..or revealing the contents of private PM's..is just looking for a feud. I'm not looking for a feud. I'm just mature enough to be able to look beyond the misconceptions people have merely because there has been someone intelligent enough to create and benefit from examples of websites that others wish they had.

So..you have yourself a very nice day jnap.

Qwispea, I have difficulty interpreting the meaning or intent of your post #183 addressed to me personally. Could you clarify?

Uninvited personal comments, positive or negative, might be more appropriately made elsewhere. I am willing, as mentioned previously, to meet you in an appropriate public forum to exchange personal pleasantries.

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Well..it should be obvious to you..but I'll explain it best I can.

Most people..myself included..have tried to keep most of our comments directly related to the TOPIC! That was your very first post here in this topic..and it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic..and everything to do with your opinion of some of the personalities of those who HAVE stuck to the topic.

Uninvited? What in the world is THAT? When you post on a public forum..you intentionally INVITE comments. As for "personal" comments..mine was merely an observation of the things you said in your only other post in this topic. And it was absolutely true.

Now..your advice should be directed right back at you..because it fits.

I thought it was public knowledge at the time I wrote that. I was working hard all day and till midnight yesterday and then up at 6am to go back to work at 7am I was not on the computer for awhile and just read my pms two people Pm'd me and said that she was actually a he. Seemed the Pm's insinuated that it was on this forumk publically and I had not read it yet if you read the Pm's you would see how I could come to that conclusion. Either way even if the Pm's had just said MC is a man an dthey came from friends I would only assume that being my friends they dont know MC or live near him/her (or want to) so I would deduce they got the info from on this site in the public forum. So satisfied? I am sure you will do your best to run to your moderator buddies and get me banned like you did last time when I was banned for posting the nasty Pm I recieved publically. The fact is if I am banned for what I just did unintentionally (see I would not have written that if I did not think it had been revealed already) than that will be HT's loss as well as my own as I am one of the most acctive posters here and I am a real Homesteader unlike a few virtual people around here LOL course I am away from the farm temporarily but we all know that was out of my control.

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Oh gee whiz, someone kill this thread already... please...

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Yes Brown nose, lunacy, and pathology, and I am really sure you dont really want me to expand on any of that as much as I would like to, I think it unesscary as some have said this thread has done much to reveal peoples true selves. I recognized MCs perceptiveness and excellent suggestions I just did not mention them outside PM because I have been exchanging corespondence for a few months with PC dreams and I saw a friend under attack and was doing my best to concentrate my posts on defending him. Also I dont particularly like MC (an understatement) (We hardly see eye to eye on anything) so why should I point out his/her strong points and occasional good suggestions. an excellent attempt here in your post to change the discussion and blow off Mc's deceptiveness And paint you of all people as mature LOL I would never come close to claiming myself to be mature I have to many juvenile tendencies for that heck I played marbles with 10 year old kids in the marshall islands even when I was 17. Guess I am just a slow developer maybe I can rise to your and MC's level of "maturity" someday LOL I hate virtual reality the real thing is so much better. You know I am deeply sad for the many people out there including shygal that had been taking hope and encouragement from MC's fake websites. cant believe I am writing all this on the 6 hours sleep I got last night, I need to get to bed soon.

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My what a lovely spell he and she cast.....thats right its a dynamic witching duo...I'm afraid.....

Observations and perceptions are intertwined unless scientifically defined..measurement of time distance etc measured by specified device/unit...Obser gave his "free" take on things...."free" is good for the BUDGET!

PC's perception of entitlement gets in his way....as does MC's thinking it's his/her entitlement to put up a facade and calling it market research....

I think MC should run for President.....seems real qualified in the BS dept.

Meanwhile I'll be shovelling real goat and chicken manure onto my real compost piles gardens. Then I'll eat my real fruit, veggies, eggs, milk.....heck I'll even sell you some if you come to my REAL homestead. Come on over and help MY BUDGET!
I just purchased an INCREDIBLE (haha) buck goat from another forum member....so dont lose hope folks!
I also have two piggies coming....and looking to sell a bit of porky by OCT.
It'll be Real filling I promise. The real piggery was very smelly....a virtual piggery without the smell would've been so much better, but I wanted real pigs.....I held a week old squeeler.... And got a new egg customer to boot!(the pig guy)
The old fashioned way...in person.

As you can see since he decided to post that I immediately took the opportunity to go down to that level and posted similar. Just dont meet him in a real life public forum unless your quick on the draw obser I like you to much LOL

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If you dont like jerry springer change the channel. No one is forcing you to read this thread. By the number of hits I would say that Pc dreams has a winner here maybe a record thread LOL and Much of interest has been learned and shared who knows what more will come be thoughtfully discussed.LOL Let the thread die a natural death if that is it's destiny.

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MC is correct in this. I majored in Graphic/Illustration/Commercial Art back in the early eighties. Most of the products you buy at the store are marketed under a brand name and a generic name. Guess which is the biggest seller. It is the brand name. Market research shows that people gravitate to what they can relate to. The brand name makes them think it is a better quality product than the generic, even though many times they are the same identical product. So packaging is everything. The market research used for this is surveys and focus groups. They are not misleading. We were not taught to misrepresent something, only to embellish it. The consumer would be angry and not buy any of your products if they thought you deliberately gave them false information. That of course was 25 years ago. Today there is computers and competition for the consumers limited amount of free time to make these choices. Now down to the ethics of it. I do agree that the farmer can market his product to make more people gravitate to him and pay the higher price. After all, the tomato he represents is sitting right there in front of you for your evaluation. When it comes to websites there is nothing to evaluate other than what is represented. IMHO it is unethical to represent something that is not a reality under any measure. If the website clearly stated it was for representational purposes of MC skills then I would say it was very well done. His/Her graphics are wonderful! Other people can determine the ethics for themselves. One thing is for certain. Never believe what you read/see on the internet!!!

Yes I would say MC has given us all a lesson there and perhaps it is good that we did not lose more than are innnocence this time. Though I feel we have all been made fools of.

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