Dave Ramsey, I'm a bit put off and confused

Not if the information were true and honest, and if I didn't agree with the philosophy of the business, I just wouldn't support it. Why should I be "put off" by it?

I don't agree with the philosophies of the grocery stores that sell liquor, lotto and smokes around here, but I am not "put off" by them, I still need groceries.

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I don't like Dave Ramsey, first off the last name "Ramsey" LOL I cannot get those parents in Colorado that their little princess was kidnapped.

Also he took over Derry Brownfields timespot, now I don't hear about NAIS and RFID, but that really steams me, -1 for radio station.

What if to get you in the store they professed their phiosophy of being against liquor,lotto, and smokes and when they got you in the store you found they were selling them in the back room. Would you be put off?

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Beeman I can understand your frustration. Mr. Ramsey promotes one thing but his referal advisors promote the opposite. I would tend to guess his criteria for being a local advisor is looser than just his views. I doubt he gets anything from these conselors. They probably take a course through his group and then volunteer as counselors.
Just for an example we used to really like Larry Burkett and his show Money Matters when we were young and stupid financially speaking. We called their show to get a referal to a counselor in our area. To be a counselor this gentleman had completed the CFC course (christian financial concepts who put on the radio broadcast). Once we sat down with him we found his views differed in some important areas for Mr. Burkett's. Basically he had taken what they had taught him and mixed in his own perspective. With literally hundreds of counselors out there obviously they couldn't check on all of them to see if they were sticking strictly with the ministries teachings. He gave us the books that CFC published and we took them home and worked out our own finances from them. So all in all it was helpful but we were also a bit frustrated that he didn't stick with Mr. Burkett's advice.
I would be interested to hear what Mr. Ramsey's response is to your email.

How were you deceived in that manner? Now you are really stretching to make an analogy. Besides which, many places push themselves in the same way as "family places" and have bars in the middle of them (I am thinking restaurants here) and when I go, if I don't like it, I don't go back. That's all.

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I was just wondering the same sort of thing, it seems that not throwing the baby out with the bath water really only goes in certain directions.

ZYG, would it be fair to say that when a supposedly family restaurant contained a bar, you might be "put off" and option to not return? That seems similar to what some are saying about the radio program. Some aspect of it was appealing (the food was good / the economic information was valuable) but something in the environment was unsatisfactory (the bar / the religious orientation).

The unsatisfactory environment might cause us to seek the food or the information from another source (plenty of which are available) that do not include the unsatisfactory element.

Some might say that refusing to return to the restaurant was "throwing out the baby with the bath water" (just as is said about the radio program). I notice that saying being used almost exclusively when someone is promoting a particular course of action by someone else or is criticizing the decisions of others.

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I was put off by Dave Ramsey's radio show because of the lack of useable information and too many commercials. I listened for maybe an hour and got next to nothing out of his program. It was not much more than constant advertising for his products. I went to his website and got no usable information from there either. Then borrowed his book through interlibrary loan and put his priniciples to use. The best way to get the information imho, is from the library. It's free, you don't have to pay a thousand dollars and risk the pressure of joining a church group to learn that way.

BTW, I absolutely love his plan for getting out of debt.

I could agree with this statement for the most part. I suppose I see "put off" a bit differently. I read it as there was some secret goal of the folks and it wasn't disclosed to anyone...

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Ramsey's people emailed me and sent the statement from his website that I posted about how he DOESN'T endorse faith based investing. They said they would look into it. I then received an email from his recommended ELP which was an automatic email generated by my original inquiry. The intro email showed how their whole plan was Christian based values investing. I sent a copy of that email to Ramsey's people and told them to draw their own conclusions. They replied that they were very sorry and that they would contact the ELP and and have him restructure his introduction email to make it less confusing. The ELP sent me a copy of his and Ramsey's organization's correspondence and how he will change his intro email wording and how he does offer Ramsey's program to all but does offer his faith based program as a choice also.

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