HELP!! New Neighbor Problems

Trapping and shooting is not going to get rid of all the coyotes. They are incredibly adaptive and they are there to stay. Kill 100, the remaining ones just have bigger litters. You control coyotes, not eliminate them. LGDs are a great way to protect your livestock and they cannot do their job if you bark break them, lock them up, punish them, etc.

When you move next to a farm, you have to adjust to the goings on at the farm. Not vice versa. They should have thought of that before they moved in. The farm is not doing anything illegal or unusual. The dogs were there before the neighbor and Right to Farm protects that. I cannot believe anyone would suggest that the problem is the fault of pyrnad. Next thing someone is going to suggest they get rid of their roosters or guineas or goats because they make too much noise as well.

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Ultra Lord is not afraid of chickens!

As my dogs are LGD's they keep the 2 legged that do not belong out also. I had somone try to steal baby goats. They did not know the dogs were there. I found a denim pocket, then denim with undies and blood on it. Local PD found the guy at the local ER getting his but stiched. Rips and pants matched. To this day he swears he was not here.
My dogs will not take food from anyone but those they guard ,yes they guard the humans here as part of their flock. Strangers (if I am not their) would lose their fingers.
If anyone has a solution to the bear an coyote problem here please let me know. You can not kill them all .
Just for the record it was a bear near the back fence that the dogs were barking at last night

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As a Mainer, I think you should get some guineas. And a few motion lights.
I am sooo glad we have nice neighbors here. I moved my hen house because the roosters were too loud for one neighbor. The others say they like it. I keep asking them, making sure, but they still say they like the roosters. They are morning people. My other neighbor is not.
That's why I don't have Guineas, although I would like to. I think the neighborhood would have a fit if I were to get any more noisy animals.
We don't have a problem with coyotes, I hear them but they don't come near. I think it is my un neutred dog's smell, but it seems to be a little simple.

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I moved from the big city to the "middle of nowhere"..(I always liked that expression)..for some reason I had thought that the country was quiet..it's not. Never mind the guy's dogs next door..the cicadas and crickets were so loud I had to move the telephone away from the window to be able to hear clearly..

During deer season, you'd think there was a war going on..there were days when I half expected to see tanks coming through the woods. Then there were the "mudders"..every week-end you'd hear them frolicking beyond the trees headed into the woods and down to the creek..yeehaw.

I loved to feel the ground shake everytime the 20 horses in the pasture nearby ran down the hill at 5:30AM..not to mention the cows bawling and my own chickens incessantly clucking.

Did I miss the ambulance, police and fires sirens? The "whoosh" of bus doors closing? The sound of impatient automobile horns? The interesting noise that beer bottles make as they break hitting a brick wall? Nope..I found the country to be full of noise..just a different kind..People who aren't used to any noise at night generally live in outer suburbia where the only time they are disturbed is when their neighbor gets up at night and coughs.

Great observation

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Ultra Lord is not afraid of chickens!

I'm making a wild guess that you do not live where there is a coyote problem.

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LOL. Stinky bucks can be smelled a mile away as it is, I never figured out how anyone can stand them. My mother used to rent a buck a couple times a year to breed the does, boy were we always glad to see them go!

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Sullen, I have the motion lights, and video surveillance as well both in and around the big barn. I can record on video tape if I want to.
I choose the lifestyle I have. Been here for 11 years and I will be damned if some new neighbor is going to scare me off. Over the past month I have brought them homemade bread, and fresh eggs. I have been nice now it is time to not be nice. I am very tired as I have been up since 12:30 last night.

Pyrnad states that they have Great Pyrenees as livestock guardians well their barking is doing the job they have been bred to do. Great pyrs are on patrol in the night and they walk the fence line and they bark a warning bark all through the night it is bred into them from the time they were Basque gaurdian dogs for the flocks out on open pasture. If they are not barking then it is something to worry about either they are not good at their jobs or something is wrong with them.

pyrnad if possible I would talk to the neighbor and explain why they are there and that they are doing their job and that barking is part of their job weather it is gaurding against 4 legged or 2 legged predetors.

APPway

Hold up: are you serious???

You gave those people HOMEMADE BREAD, fresh eggs, and they're kvetching about a barking dog?
They must be nuts!
I would KILL to have a neighbor like you! Good gosh, woman, those people don't have a lick of sense.

Also, some people who have never actually lived in the country really think it is going to be deadly quiet.
They don't actually realize that there is supposed to be some noises there.

That may be part of the problem; unrealistic expectations. But hey, for homemade bread and farm eggs I would overlook a whole lot!!!

I am so tired of the city folk moving out to the country to live and then complaining about the 'stink', the animals, and the noise! If they don't like it, then they can high tail their behinds back to the stinky, noisey, dangerous city from which they came. We country folk were here before they were. It's the C-O-U-N-T-R-Y ya'll. I mean haven't they seen enough movies or TV to know that we almost all have atleast 2 barking dogs, rusty equipment in the yard, and some livestock running around ;-)!

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I want a neighbor like that too! I would even be happy to trade eggs for homemade bread.

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I've got homemade jams to go with the bread and eggs. I'd take barking dogs over city noise any day of the week.

OK, you gave me an idea.....try printing out some details on your dogs, some stories, etc, and show them why your dogs do what they do. I did that for some of my friends who couldn't understand why I didn't like store food.

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I may be in the minority here, but i think you should try to keep your dogs quiet. No one wants to hear barking dogs, espically all the time, espically all night long. They do bear some responsibility since you have been using dogs in farming since before they moved in, right ? If it were livestock, tractors, or other noise i would have more sympathy. But tractory only run so many hours, livestock only ball once in a while. But some barking dogs never stop until they die.

In my opinion there is no difference between your barking dogs, and a machinist who runs his excessivly loud machinery in the middle of the night and keeps his neighbors awake. Or a mechanic who fixes cars in his garage and uses pneumatic tools in the middle of the night. Do they not have a responsibility to keep quiet, even though its 'their job' ?

Perhaps you could corral all your animals in your barn over night, including your dogs. Perhaps you could get different guard dogs who do not bark all night. You could still keep you current, just put them up at night. You could solve this problem if you wanted to. I am not saying your wrong for not sacraficing, only that you could probably solve this peaceable, rather than just insisting its 'too bad' for your neighbors. Keep in mind the law does not always favor you and your ideas, are you ready to beat some one with the law? only to later be beaten by it yourself, when you could just solve it ?

Keep in mind their neighbor could harrass you as well as you could harass them. If they have money they could probably break you in lawsuits. I dont know the law, but they still may be able to sue you civily.

Do you obey every law passed ? Could your neighbors get you in trouble with some other matter ? Are you sure ?

There is alot to consider other than "IM RIGHT, YOUR WRONG, IT SAYS SO ON THIS HERE PAPER, SO TOUGH SHUT, HA HA!"

I will tell you i hate barking dogs. I have a dog. I keep it quiet. My neighbors dont keep theirs quiet. I am about to make their live miserable, and decrease their property values, every legal way i can.

I wonder how many wind chimes $500 will buy? I need to 'clean up' my lawn by moving all my junk away from 'my' house. I also need a few more hog pens, my old ones are ... well ... old, and TOO CLOSE TO MY HOUSE !


You reap what you sow.

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ts Dave, My dogs are farm tools just like a tractor or machinery. Their is even a Supreme Court ruling on the use of LGD's. They bark to keep the animals safe. Even if they were in the barn which is 20 Feet from their dwelling The would bark. They can still hear the coyote howling if they are in. I also do not want the coyote coming any closer than they do. The coyote carry rabies and mange, and I do not need that on top of everything else

I totally agree here...shoot the new neighbors....IF I had done that a long time ago, I would be much better off and my animals would be too.

MY NEIGHBORS "POISONED" MY GREAT PYRENEES!

Get rid of these neighbors and do not be friendly about it! They threatened YOUR PROPERTY, by saying that they wouls do something if you did not.

That sounds like a threat to me!

Tarot Farm, I would be glad to send you another pyr or 2. We have mini horses too, and the dogs love them.
That is the reason I filed a police report. Besides they will be trespassing if they get near where the dogs are(Right in my line of fire)

I also have hams, and bacon from the 2 pigs we raised last year. Breakfast anyone?