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01/29/08, 11:22 AM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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Originally Posted by kyhippie
us kentuckians arent mean, we just don't like nosey folks or know it all folks LOL Seriously don't move here with a bunch of ideas of how you think you'll be treated , most of us are pretty good folks. we just don't like it when somebody comes in and starts telling us how we should be doing when we have been happy with our system LOL
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Well said! No one likes an invasion. Being an outsider, coming into someone else's territory I guess the best advice I could give anyone moving in from out of state is to just follow the golden rule and think about the fact that the property you just bought has likely belonged to several family members nearby that are your neighbors. Folks have memories there and as for us ... we love hearing about them. We grew up in southern Oregon and the same kinds of feelings existed there too. We grew up with exactly the same feelings that you just said kyhippie. For us as Oregonian's there was a strong almost impenatratable bond and no one liked outsiders coming in buying up the land but if in time they blended in it wasn't so bad. After some years pass that person becomes a good neighbor and friend. So blending into the comminity here is of utmost importance. After all... if you don't like the way folks live and do buisness ...why do you come here? If you have the thought pattern that the property you have moved onto is now yours alone...without any thoughts of it's history or the way of life around you then ...you will be left alone. In the end I guess those that don't belong move on and the rest of us are adopted in and someday our kids will be considered locals that had the parents that moved in from out of state! LOLOL Shoot.. I know in Oregon sometimes it could be worse coming in from the next county rather than out of state! :baby04: (ok not really.. out of state is worse)
We love it here and I'm sorry for those that didn't. That's my 2 cents for whatever it's worth.
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01/29/08, 12:51 PM
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Well I am from the Midwest but country and in some respects it is still very close knit around here. I recall an incident here several years ago was not living here at the time and was back for a visit and to introduce my wife to the family. We had went out to a local watering hole for a drink and got to talking to a fellow. During the conversation a certain fellows name came up and I made a rather unkind remark, the fellow I was talking to quickly informed me it was not a good idea to make mention of the locals shortcomings. When I asked why he informed me while glancing around rather nervelessly that the whole town was full of people who were related. I said yeah I know that guy we just mentioned was my cousin.
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01/29/08, 02:07 PM
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You know, it works both ways...Midwesterners don't like you doing something different from the rest of them. My wife and I raise beef cattle and pastured broilers right smack dab in the middle of corn and soybean country. I don't how many times I have to had to hear how foolish it is to turn perfectly good row crop land into pasture! I probably would make a better Kentuckyian than Illinoisan based on other comments here!!!!!! LOL.
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01/29/08, 03:00 PM
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I have a house and 24+/- acres in TN just south of the KY line near Hopkinsville, KY, Clarksville, TN and Ft Campbell KY. Its really close to Land Between the Lakes. We just (today) listed it with a realtor. Give me a PM if you want more details.
One reason why we bought it was TN instead of KY was there is no state income tax.
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01/29/08, 03:17 PM
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We just moved here from Michigan ( near detroit ) 3 1/2 yrs ago.
WE ABSOLUTLY love it. The ground here in western ky ( 42 miles from Hoptown, lol you will get used to the names) is rocky in the "LEAST" and clay. But workable.
The people here are nice, but also are very very cautious of "outsiders" . It takes a while to get in "good" with people, and showing them that your not a "visitor" or that you are here to change the way of life here.
We have been fortunate enough to live near the Land between the lakes ( can see it in winter) and have good weather here.
Yes there is drought
Yes there is rain
Yes there is HEAT!(WHEWWEE, thats something you will have to get used to)
YES there is more humidity than Michigan
But the beautiful landscapes and the feeling of peace and serintiy all make up for that!
You can fish year round, you can hunt almost anywhere ( with in reason) and the laws are a little bit more laid back, so come with a "watch and learn their way" mentality!
But it is my most beloved place to be and we are happy to call it home!
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01/29/08, 03:56 PM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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Razorback21... that's one of the things that is the same in Oregon too...people throwing out their opinions.
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Here in Kentucky I've learned more than homesteading skills. I've learned .... no, I'm still learning... how to be a nicer person and that it's important to keep my advice to myself and that it's important to not only give but to receive. Isn't it hard to keep your mouth shut & watch someone trying to build or fix something when they're going about it all wrong and you stand there with the knowlege they need to do it better? It's not hard for these folks! If you don't ask for help, no one is going to but in and tell you they have a better way to do it. I was talking about that with a neighbor that was born and raised here and she admitted that she even keeps her counsel to herself with her grown daughter. When I put that to practice with my family it was like a burden being lifted off of me. I no longer felt it was my responsibility to make sure the world turned the right way. I really feel good here. I love the people, the way of life and I want them to love me! LOLOL
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01/29/08, 04:42 PM
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I'd have to agree with this fella, sounds like he knows his Ky. alright. You read some folks writing how it's ok and you'll do fine here. Just remember the old saw about misery loving company. I'd hate to see someone get sucked in here and then be miserable the rest of their days. Why not move somewhere else and be miserable there from the get go? Kind of cut out the middle state. Oh yeah, and another thing, we eat burgoo here. Now do you want your hard working bread winner to come in to the supper table, cold and sore, and ask you what's fer supper and all you can answer is burgoo? Why he won't know whether to wipe in on his sleve or get the bucket and mop. Makes Tenn. or W.V. see down right homelike don't it. Even New Mexerco sounds better by comparison. And really, how many can pull off the coonskin cap look anyway? Not many I'd venture.
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Originally Posted by Farmer Willy
Kentucky---bleh. You'd hate it here. So would everyone else that has moved or is planning to move here. Run, get away while you can. Nothing grows, animals do poorly, the water is polluted, it, it it rains all the time, then it has droughts. I'd suggest Indiana or West Virginia, or Arizona. We are too poor to even afford gravity, luckily the state sucks so bad we stay in place. And, if you do move here, don't move to where I'm trying to buy more land.
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01/29/08, 05:03 PM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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LOLOL Farmerwilly2 .... you ornery ol thing.. you sound like my grandfather when he was alive! Only the State is different!
The Welcome sign at the state line of Calif. and Ore. used to be made of wood and said.. Welcome To Oregon Visit but don't stay ... back when I was real little. See? I can stay here! I can't go back to Oregon so don't even say it! LOL We like it here. We have our heels dug in! hahaha..
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01/29/08, 05:06 PM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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By the way... what is Burgoo??? Do I need to ask around and will I get laughed at?
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01/29/08, 05:15 PM
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this all reminds me of a guy that moved in the neighborhood a few years back. he had never lived in the country or been around livestock but he immediately decided he needed a riding horse. Being not too smart about horses, insteading of buying an older gentle horse to learn on, he bought a green broke stud horse cause he could just see himself dashing around on a fiery mount just like roy rogers LOL. My brother offered to help him finish breaking it but he got real snotty and informed bro that he had read a book on how to do it and so he knew much more than bro who had been around horses since he was about five. Long story short, he may have read the book but the horse hadn't so after getting thrown more times that you can count and eventually ruining a potentially good horse, he got laughed out of the community. Everybody around here would have willingly helped if he had asked instead of acting like he knew more that all of us put together then proving that he knew nothing LOL Its a standing joke around here now when anyone tries a different way of doing something and it don't work out somebody is bound to say, "I guess you read the book"
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01/29/08, 05:26 PM
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Cookiecow's Husband
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LOL....That is the funniest story. What makes it funny is that I too like to read books on the subject. The difference is, that I know the book misleads sometime. Like when our newest cow ran me down in the squeeze chute, or when trying to lead a wild calf in a direction he doesn't want to go, and there are dozens of stories like these. The good old boys around here still tease me about getting the animals to read the same books I read. It is all in good fun, and after having their chuckle at my expence, they aways helped do it the right way. I worked in the corporate world until health issues forced me to retire, so believe me when I tell you, I had/have a lot to learn about farming still. Books about farming are helpful, but the time will come when you have to put on the arm-length glove, and reach in shoulder deep. The book doesn't really help at those times.
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01/29/08, 05:50 PM
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Folks around here the trouble with our outsiders is that.
1,They left a crummy place to move here but they want to remake this place to just like the one that they left.(We don't need a Wally World,Home Depo,etc!!etc!)This county has been dry for over a century and maybe we like it that way.
2,Envy I"m not throwing rocks at anybody on this thread but when you brag about selling your land up North and are able to come down here and buy a nice house and land and still have a chunk of change in your pocket think about how you are precived by a local man who coud'nt even come up with a down payment on the same.Because they were jobs they don't pay for beans.
3,All you see in the paper is that this place needs to grow and modernize mostly written by outsiders truth is that most people like it just as is.
4,we are not the beverly hillbillys.
5,Although I'm not from Ky.I feel your pain and I understand and apprecaite the newcomers who come in and try ther best to fit in good luck.
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01/29/08, 06:11 PM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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Well Kens if what you say is true and we really won't ever be able to fit in then I guess we just have to deal with it because we don't have alot of money. We live off of SS and live in a double wide and are still building this and that of what we need for the farm. We came here for reasons that are our own and I don't think anyone would be considered beverly hillbillys around here.
Anyway... I was just having fun and thought others were too. Maybe it was a joking.. 'serious' and I didn't catch on.
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01/29/08, 06:23 PM
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Cookiecow's Husband
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Kens,
Cookiecows and I moved here in part for all of the reasons you talk about. We have moved so many time due to my job, that we really looked a place to put in roots. I know what you mean when people come in with more money than those already here, and think that makes them more important or something. That is just wrong no matter where you go. We like the culture here, and look at this a one of the few places where people who are not "made of money" can still find a homestead of their own. We get help from local workers for the stuff we can not do ourselves, preferably neighbors if possible. We feel really lucky that we have sort of been adopted here, and wouldn't change a thing.
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01/29/08, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookiecows
By the way... what is Burgoo??? Do I need to ask around and will I get laughed at?
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Well, we can't have you traipsin around the country like a gypsie (besides they've a tight union and aren't taking new members now) so I suppose you'll have to stay. Helps to have a thick skin and a sense of humor here. Burgoo is a mysterious dish always cooked up around the KY Derby week. Think of it as a communtiy dish (traditionally) were everything that anyone had was thrown in the pot. I think in others parts of the world Mulligan stew would be a good example. Vegatables, meat, game----whatever you had you threw into the community kettle. When eating time came you all dished out of the same kettle. Folks are more squeamish now, so you'll get a more tame version of it unless you and yours make your own.
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01/29/08, 07:49 PM
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cookiecows look at point #5  and as I wrote I was'nt trying to throw rocks.I have to drive two countys over to work at a job that pays a good wage and I still would not have my county change.Theres more things that is more important than money.And good luck on your farm what I'm trying to say is when you you are in Rome do as the Romans do.
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01/29/08, 09:42 PM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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Originally Posted by kens
cookiecows look at point #5  and as I wrote I was'nt trying to throw rocks.I have to drive two countys over to work at a job that pays a good wage and I still would not have my county change.Theres more things that is more important than money.And good luck on your farm what I'm trying to say is when you you are in Rome do as the Romans do.
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Oh well, you know I was just worried that those gypsies weren't going to take me so I got sensitive!
Seriously though I understand how everyone feels ... I mentioned it in a previous post and that's why we try so hard to do as the Romans do. If we went back to Oregon we'd be back with our own people. We just ended up so far away from home when the end of the road came for us. We lived 6 hours south of here in Georgia with our youngest child and our oldest was married with children in Ohio as that was the previous place we had lived and it was home for them. We knew that we couldn't go back home to Oregon and be clear across the US from our daughter and not be able to see our grandchildren grow up. So I got on the internet and we found a place here that we could afford and had enough property for our kids to live on to if they wanted to. It was tough not being able to go back home as we always figured that we would and sometimes it still tugs at me but we're fortunate to be here with good people and our kids have moved onto the property with us.
I feel your pain about the long drive to work and low wages as our kids are in that boat too! Well they only have to go one county over but almost two as we're only a mile from the third county! And all for $9 per hour. I have to admit though.... Wally World IS supposed to be built about 10-15 minutes from here either this year or next year and I don't know anyone that isn't excited!! We're in the middle of no where and it's a half hour to good shopping!
So anyway ... we're all good! Women! You know how we can get! :baby04:  :baby04:
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01/29/08, 10:04 PM
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cookiecows
 My little wifie probley would like a Wally World closer( one hour drive).
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01/29/08, 10:11 PM
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BeltieBandits Wife
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Oh my gosh!!!!
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01/29/08, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookiecows
By the way... what is Burgoo??? Do I need to ask around and will I get laughed at?
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Burgoo is sort of a Kentuckian Brunswick Stew - or, Kentucky is the only time I've ever heard Burgoo. In Owensboro they use all kinds of "meat" to make it. It's good - try it.
I'm looking for a home back in Union County - anybody got 10-15 acres with a "livable" house on it - in the DeKoven, Caseyville area?
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