Registration of backyard chicken flocks

Droping like flies!? "H5N1 strain which has killed more than 60 people in Asia since 2003"
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/1....1qt0p6wv.html

Even if it's 80 people, over 3 years, Good old normal Flu kills 10s of thousand of Americans each year. On average, influenza is annually associated with more than 36,000 deaths and more than 200,000 hospitalizations http://www.dhss.mo.gov/Influenza/

And other countries have similar numbers. It seems to me we've always had a pandemic.

The Government just wants to distract us right now. Becaues a lot more than 60 perfectly healthy Americans have died in Iraq http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html The government says we are over thier to defend freedom, and yet bit by bit they sucsede in taking ours away. How long before I need a chip inserted in me for national security.

Chicken? what chicken?

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Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Randy was a perfect example of the kind of drama it takes to make a point loud enough to be heard.

Anyway, history has enough examples of government misrule to fertilize the imagination. The Weaver's imaginations were, er, way out there, but boil it down. What is the take away?

We are just on guard, and have to make loud, dramatic points to be listened to over the babble. Boil down the hyperbole, and the essense of Ruby Ridge is a powerful lesson for all of us.

Looks like 1984 came about 20 years later than predicted.

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING

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They can chip my chickens when they pry them from my cold dead fingers!

Problem is, when the media spin is all said and done, most people think Randy Weaver was nothing more than white trash racist Aryan who tried to sell illegal guns to anyone and everyone who'd buy one. Most people are content to allow the media to define who is "good" and who is "bad" these days without taking the time to clarify those definitions for themselves.

I try to keep my head down and a low profile, which, unfortunately, bodes well for those in power. Often the squeaky wheel gets the grease...but sometimes the squeaky wheel gets shot by a sniper while holding a baby too.

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It is well documented - Backyard poultry flocks have been the source of at least one serious disease This has impacted the larger poultry industry.

http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/animaldisease/nf565.htm

http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/animaldisease/g1505.htm

http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/animaldisease/g1039.htm

It makes absolute sense to try to contain disease by monitoring flocks.

If the government did otherwise, they would be critized for not protecting America's livestock and the folks who raise them.

You're more likely to get sick from the snot-nosed kids you see at the grocery store than from my contained chickens.

It's a registration for some form of control down the road. It's unnecessary, it will ending up costing us in some form of money (it ALWAYS does, revenue is king), and it's BS. Root for it all you want, my chickens just all disappeared (dang hawks, owls, eagles, coyotes, mountain lions, and bears!)

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Nope wont do it....We see those planes flying over our place all the time my hubby has a walking stick with a turkey foot on the top doing the one finger salute he shakes it at em LOL!!! There is NO way we will register our birds that is stupid!!!
Big brother can just take a flying leap!!! And when you think about it they cant even control dogs we see em running all over the place no tags all the time. So take your stupid pics and you know where you can file them. Stay out of our air space if your going to spy on us..
Do ya all think they wont be reading these posts???

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Crashy

Funny thing is, they quite handily got the Exotic Newcastle outbreak under control in a few months WITHOUT chipping anyone's birds. Also, there were a number of false positives because of the type of testing used (it registered a false positive when the breeder had vaccinated for domestic newcastle). And funny thing is, they want to make us use biosecurity -- but it didn't even WORK for the big boys.

Big industry has survived perfectly well and made oodles of money for many years without chipping anyone's chickens. Avian flu, which is the threat du jour, will not be prevented by registering anyone's livestock -- unless they intend to take livestock away from us Americans, and still, that's not going to protect us if avian flu mutates and goes pandemic and starts spreading person to person. (I'm not saying avian flu isn't a threat -- it scares the absolute snot out of me. But H5N1 isn't going to go, "Oh, I won't infect that chicken, it's got a microchip.")

This is about more profit for big industry (when they're already making a handy profit), not about protecting anyone.

Leva

And, incidently, big industry's desire to make MORE money does not trump my right to own personal property (livestock). If they can't make money with the methods they're using, they need to change their methods, not try to eliminate MY property just so they can make MORE money than they already are -- trust me, Tyson and Foster Farms and Monsanto are not hurting for money.

If they're worried about disease taking out a commercial flock, that's what insurance is for.

Leva

If it comes to it in my state, I ain't gonna register just to buy chicken food. I will find other ways to feed them.

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refuse. It's the start of the end otherwise--total chipping of humans once they get animals chipped. Not far away if we don't resist the govt. now!

I just visited the Wisconsin link! They are nuts if they think I am going to tell them about my birds! Talk about Big Brother (and our tax dollars) at work. Are there any organizations out there trying to protect our freedoms? Sign me up!

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One of the many reasons I quit my job at the local feed store yesterday is the fact that I'm required to have the name, address, and phone number of every customer, even if they buy a candy bar, recorded in the computers database. The owner informed me that the new law requiring us to do it just came into effect this last week. I don't know that the law requires us to do that for candy bar purchases, I believe that's her tracking her customers. However, the other purchases are to be tracked by the government. Why else would they force us to do this?

What really amazes me is that there has only been one customer in the last 3 weeks who refused to buy anything. Everyone else just complies.

Now I don't know what to think about the bird flu being in the States. According to McMurray, there has never been a case in the US. Am I confused about what they are actually saying?

Edited to add a question: How did these laws get passed without us knowing it?

Dana in Colorado

ThreeJane:

I can just see you breaking into Kentucky Fried Chicken's headquarters and rescuing poultry. You'll rival the GreyHound rescue group. You go, girl!

ThreeJane...I am with ya sista!!!

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Crashy

I will simply refuse to comply. How can they even begin to think that they can keep track of all our backyard flocks? They can't keep track of people who register to cross our borders.

If the feed stores require registration, well, for millennia domesticated chickens have existed without the Purina supplier. Besides, my supplier wears a bigger tinfoil hat than I do.

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Sorry, but I was just at my local feed store yesterday to buy 100# of cracked corn, & all they wanted from me was money.

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I just called an ordered a ton of shelled corn and talked to the owner and he said in Ohio as of Jan 1. they have to get information AND they have to tax the feed...

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