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Wolf Mom and Mysticokra you have PM's

ceresone tell me more. as I have never went to a place to tell them how to do things. were not pushy nor are we know-it-all's.

Kenneth in NC

No Problem me and the Mrs do not drink, smoke nor partake of recreational drugs. DW says my mind is strange enough without adding any outside influence.


Kenneth in NC

I haved looked at all the links. Whew. There is so much diversity in properties. I still believe that tasty clean fresh water (well) and Clear clean crisp air are two variables we really can't afford to ignore.

DW & DD now agree that we can stand the Cold better than than the heat. I do not need to be in high humidity. So places with low humidity and cooler weather will appeal to me.

I appreciate you taking the time to tell me about your areas and helping us make some adjustments to our search list.


Kenneth in NC

Ken, I just got a new homes and land book and there's a couple of properties you might be interested in. one is 7.6ac in Ritchie co w free gas, 3br, well and septic, barn, garden spot and pasture, paved road access, taxes $400yr.
Looks like a pretty piece of property. It's listed in the book for $64,900 but the price has been reduced. www.ritchierealtywv.com

If you want the mag to look through pm me your address and I'll send it out.

PM'd you Terri.

Do you live near Ritchie County?

Kenneth in NC

Kenneth, seriously, there is still properties here in south missouri that are bargains. some are advertised with no money down, and low payments. BUT- i would see any before i bought.
our weathers here are mild, we do have some snow, and some 10 degree temps-but this is rare. last winter averaged about 40.we are prone to having at least one ice storm a year, but i'm sure you know enough to prepare for it. we do have heat and humidity, but this past summer was the first for 100 degrees in years. there is a standing joke here-if you dont like the weather, wait a few days it will change. never more true than here.
we have a long growing season, some crops can be overwintered. we're just off 2 major highways, and railways go thru town. town population is about 2,000. with county seat, pop7500, 20 miles away. hospitals (3) within 25 miles. college town 20 miles. springfield and rolla, mo. 75 miles. we have air-evac based in county, albulance service, mail routes and large libraries. most of all, clean air and water. visit this area, next spring, kenneth, you'll be sold. large lakes and rivers abound.
remember, the Sacketts were a "clannish" family--they were spread out all over the country. and mo. really isnt that way anymore, theres been a lot of people moved here and loved it.
take a second look at the Ozarks.

i should be like the guy from ky, but i live in pa and i love it. i am far enough away from the major cities to be comfortable but close enough for business. there are very few natural disasters here. the occassional tornado maybe or heavy rain from the 1 in a 100 hurricane. maybe a big spring melt all at once. i lived in state college once and slept through a level 3 earthquake, the only one i have heard of in pa. the schools seem good here (quite honestly i think the schools everywhere are fine as education is as much a function of the effort of students and parents as it is a reflection of the ability of a teacher or district).

if i recommended a place to settle it would be central pa. southern pa is too expensive, i know because i live here. a $55,000 2800 rancher now sells for $195000 here. northern pa is a bit depressed (economically) albeit beautiful.

there is a 26 mile long lake called raystown lake. in the past decade it has devolped alot but is still surrounded by beautiful land that is just now climbing in price. (hurry as all the people down the street with $500,000 homes will need a summer spot.)

pa weather can be strange. i like to imagine the state in three levels. the southern the middle and the northern. the southern and from the app mtns. and east, it is like a coastal region. we get wash. dc type weather minus about 5 degrees f. in the middle, the elevation is generally higher and you have cooler weather. the middle is also a "Weather cross-road" that get alot of clouds and rain. state college pa was the cloudiest place in the country once and always gives seatle a "run for the money". the north of pa can get hammered hard in the winter as it is close to the great lakes.

pa has every resource needed for survival and decent weather with few natural disasters. it has ample fish and game and farmland. personally i cannot think of living anywhere but the app mtns.

and looking at your resume, i think you should be my neighbor, lol. i have many inventive ideas and need a mentor. i need to learn how to apply for patents, etc. without getting screwed by corporations. it sounds like you have ample experience in this regard. please help me.

Hey Meloc I haven't been to PA in 15 years. Did take the Hershey tour back then. Hmmmm Good Chocolate.

PM me maybe I can help.


Kenneth in NC

How bad is the humidity in MO?????


Kenneth in NC

Well, Kenneth, I was like you, we didnt get elec till 50's on this place (house burned down 3 days after we bought it) we didnt get a indoor bathroom till late 70's. and air conditioning--we've had it for about 8 years now. my point is, i didnt notice the humidity as being bad untill we did get air. this last summer was unusally hot, and we had several weeks of high humidity, but, as you know, its what you get used to--if you sit inside in the air, humidity will bother you( not like the south tho) if you're used to being out and about, you dont notice.
kenneth, come here for a look-see in the spring, our creeks and rivers as well as the dogwoods and redbuds will hook you. did i mention are wells are pure sweet water?

It looks like I really, really need to win the lottery so I can spend all next spring & summer visiting all the good folks off this board. So many places so little time.

I am learning that some states my wife and I visited back in 1996 we missed some better parts by trying to hurry on to next destination. Now I want to go back and see it all.


Kenneth in NC

We just had 80 acres go up for sale not far from here... there's no buildings but there's power and rural water to the road. The asking price is $155,000 which I know is out of the price range you originally mentioned, but I still figured I should pass it along. I'm sure he'd probably take less. It's heavily forrested and is on a CRP program with trees.

Let me know if you want more info.

PS - I suspect this property will move fast.

80 acres for $155k? Wow in productive forest, with power / phone / water at the property line. That is close to $2k per acre.

My sister-in-law just bought the place across the street from me. 105 acres for $35k. Productive forest, with power / phone at the property line. That is close to $350 per acre.

My place is higher priced per acre, but then again my forest land is riverfront. So mine was $800 per acre.

So far in looking at places around me, I have not seen any productive forest land lower than $150 per acre.

Back in Colonial days, southern planters started out in wooden houses.... as soon as they got a little money they'd build a cheap brick house using locally (i.e., along the eastern seaboard) produced brick. CHEAP brick, which was adulterated with sawdust to extend the number of bricks they'd get from a given quantity of clay.

As soon as they got REALLY rich, they'd build an expensive house using hisgh status brick imported all the way from England, and use the smaller cheap brick house for cooking & to house the servants in.

Then..... all summer long (HOT, HUMID summers down in the SE lowlands).... the folk in the big house would try to find excuses to visit the smaller cheap brick house & stay there ("I'm supervising the cooking", "I'm trying to catch the overseer during his lunch", etc).

The reason? The sawdust in the cheap bricks had been turned to charcoal during the firing process. Bricks like this ABSORBED MOISTURE. That "cheap" house stayed cooler & less humid than did the "high status" house of imported brick. They gave up heat faster, too, allowing the house to cool down faster at night.... half the time, the servants would sleep better than the planter's family!

Good land here with easy road access is going for around $2,000 per acre. We bought ours for $730/acre but it would be landlocked to anyone else (tee hee).

Kenneth, we have a local paper here, thats cheap to post adds on, its a free weekly idea, and theres land, farms, etc posted--along with whatever you'd want. might check it out. gives you a "flavor" of the area. try , with the usual w's ozarkhorsetrader.com

I'll check that out.

It's windy 15 mph winds, 60 degrees, sunny.

Kenneth in NC

We just went through that and ended up buying land in southern Missouri again. Douglas and Ozark counties are the best IMO. Check Here for listings. Texas county has some great prices, but I love the scenery further south.

One of the reasons Jim and I love Missouri is that the people are so friendly. They only tend to get "clannish" on you if you try and change them.

Maine was our rival state, prices there were definately doable, and I loved the fact that the climate was colder... now. But we decided when we're older, it'd be just TOO cold.

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I can understand that, about Maine now, they have these things called 'coats' that can usually keep you pretty warm when you leave the house.

I get colder now after the triple bypass than I did before it. But heat is the enemy now. My Doctor said cool dry air is best for me to breath with this Congestive Heart Failure. Can't say he's right about everything but I do seem to breathe easier in cold weather.

Now have added AZ to top ten list. Thanks Wolf Mom


Kenneth in NC