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Old 11/01/05, 08:33 AM
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Wyoming has drinking water issues from what I understand.... In Maine you can dig a well 15 f and have plenty of water....

And there are still plenty of places available by floatplane in Maine....
The guy I bought my acreage from flys a floatplane. I asked him about 'logging-hours' to maintain his pilot's license.

Most of his friends ALL own floatplanes. Most of his properties have water acess.

His plane has not been registered since 1980. Same with his pilot's license, the only thing he keeps up on is his insurance policy. He nevers flys to any airport. Just into town for shopping, to each property, and to visit his friends.

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Old 11/01/05, 08:46 AM
 
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And we are not on the list....its a good thing

I am not surprised about the pilot.....just look at how many people drive without a license or after suspension.....Of course we won't need a license in this situation
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Old 11/01/05, 08:49 AM
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Why these survival questions come up always intrigues me. I always note "enemies" being nebulously referred to as "they" and the need for guns and ammo emphasized. Just find a nice place and settle down, and participate in your government, and don't let them do anything silly. Live well and keep stores and water, and listen to the weather forecast.

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Old 11/01/05, 09:13 AM
 
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Very interesting thread! I am with you folks that think that where you are is best. I think that the vast majority of people born and bred in the city will huddle near the city and expect someone to come and save them. katrina pretty much proved that. As for the few who would venture out to cause ill deeds upon us country folk I think a strong statement like a properly worded sign on the perimeter of your property would deter them. Something like "Yu
kum on thiss propity and yu will di". You would of course have to make good on this. All but a very few would move on to easier pickins. I have enough firepower here to send one heck of a message.
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Old 11/01/05, 03:00 PM
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Amen! to Cheryl in South Dakota, I think we all need to be prudent on what we post ...just in case the mole folks are interested! We all definately need to be ready for WHATEVER. Learn as much as we can and keep it to ourselves, to some degree.
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Old 11/01/05, 07:21 PM
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Thanks for the survival link. Boy do I have alot to learn! I
I dont think we are the kind of people that "those" guys would have an interest in. Keep to our selves, hurt no one, self doers, help who we can, keep our nose clean,causeing no trouble for them, not a liability.
How could we be a thret?
Sure I want to llive where there are not alot of people. Good thing I am a minority in that desire.Good thing there are alot (a ton) that would prefer to stay in there interdependant cities.
Maybe I just dont get it
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If the patriots of the 1770's ran to hide in the hills when trouble came where would America be today????? If something is worth having it ought to be worth staying and fighting for....besides...if you found a "good" place to hide out, with as many people as there are in America, how long do you REALLY think you'd be alone anyways??? A few days or a week? Then others would be there causing different problems like taking your carefully stashed food and ammo. Stay when a problem arises and help be part of the solution. Besides, people who DEMAND their rights because they are Americans and then won't stay to fight for those right but let others do the fighting for them.... and then again enjoy those rights...well, they aren't on my "likeable" list. Just my thought on the subject.

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Old 11/02/05, 11:01 AM
 
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a neighbor told me that throughout history, no matter where you happen to be, the best way to assure your survival is to be an indespensible member of your community. Tailors, doctors, farmers, woodworkers, metalsmiths, etc have been safe and well protected by townsfolk and pirates alike.
Learn a useful trade and use it to serve the folks around you and live in a small town...the kinds that existed before we started relying on petroleum.

I imagine there are obvious places that it would be good not to live should the SHTF. Places where the local environment doesn't provide enough resource to support the food and energy needs of the population living there are one example. Also staying away from likely nuclear and military targets, but the list of potential nasties gets pretty big pretty fast and it's pretty much of a personal guess as to which ones would happen first or happen at all.
I have given up on pretending my guess is so well thought out that it is the right one. I have a useful trade in a good community in an environment that can support the population. I am living a good life now.
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Water, not sitting on a vein of coal, uranium or oil, and a community that you can bond with are my priorities. Water reasons alone would let out much of the west for me, but obviously not for others.

There are too many other factors - who is coming? Why? What weapons do they have? What disasters can we expect. Wherever you live, there are risks, the question is what risks can you bear and how do you want to bear them?

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Old 11/02/05, 03:47 PM
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Yeah your right NYC is only a 6 hour drive away.
Actually Mid Coast Maine is 7 hours away. Just far enough, I think. And don't forget that the Cape keeps the weather away from us...thats why it will be safe up here.
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Old 11/02/05, 04:31 PM
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Actually Mid Coast Maine is 7 hours away. Just far enough, I think. And don't forget that the Cape keeps the weather away from us...thats why it will be safe up here.
Well. having recently had to make the trip a lot (well back and forth to Ct, while shopping for land, then buying land, then starting to build, then to move the family up, etc).

I drive kind of fast too.

Still the point being that you and I both feel that we have more than enough 'barrier' between us and that big city.
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Old 11/02/05, 07:33 PM
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it took us a long time to get to the ozarks i would stay here we are surronded by thousands of acres i think staying where we know the land would best suit us
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Old 11/02/05, 09:14 PM
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Lightbulb It makes sense to adapt to the situation

It makes sense to adapt to the situation at hand. As it has been said, sometimes it is better to sit tight to weather something and other times it may be necessary to bug out for a time until things settle.

Even the American Patriots fought and retreated using Native American tactics against the British. The militia couldn't face them in the field formations of the day, even the Revolutionary Army got hit terribly and had to retreat most of the time after engagements until they were backed up by the French. At the time, the militia with the lightning attacks did more to keep the Brits off balance than if they fought with the same tactics as the Brits.

What I am trying to get at is that depending on the situation you may have to change to make the best solution to the prevaling situation. For some it means staying put in the area they are familiar with and can survive in even if they have to leave their homestead. Others may be better off bugging out and getting out of the area, like an urban/suburban area, to a more rural or forest/mountain/natural area where they can hide out until they can figure out what to do next.

I'm not overly concerned about city folks swarming my area as there is about an hour of distance between me and the closest medium sized city. There are lots of small towns and topography between me and those cities. I am more worried about the more citified transplants to my area that demand city services in my rural area. The central sewers and water systems won't last long without electricity, though they could handle a short term, perhaps two to three day power interuption.

Things here would be difficult for a few weeks in the area, but still tolerable if we had major flooding or a tornado here that destroyed infrastructure. We handled the Great Flood of 1993 here pretty well despite some rough patches.

I feel comfortable buttoning up here where I know the land, resources and roadways/trails around my immediate area if I need to strike out in an emergency. However, I also know that I'm fairly safe from most weather dangers unless I receive a direct hit from a tornado.

For me the best place is being where I have a survival advantage due to my knowledge of my surroundings. Unless I were able to live in a new area for at least a couple of years, I wouldn't feel that I had the same confidence in survival knowledge.

Still, these are just my thoughts. Some may flame me, some may praise me. Ah, such is life.
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