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Old 01/09/07, 02:09 AM
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we set up game cameras on the trails today they put time and date of the pic
from what we've observed over the last year he makes his rounds early in the morning didnt catch site of him yesterday but there were two of us at oppisite ends of the property watching it must have been in the draw on the far side of the creek the guy with me radioed that three deer that had been feeding across from him took off like shots to the west, while he was telling me this the four deer feeding in the field across from me took off as well but to the east. theres a narrow heavey wooded draw that runs between the two fields . It likes to croos the creek where the draw meets it . there a wide beaver dam . looks like a well used crossing from all the tracks . deer tend to cross about 20 yards downstream from the ---- where the water is very shallow. over the last couple years we've been getting preditor rich lots of bob cats and coyotes .
your area is probably getting 'predator rich' because they have lots of deer for prey. That's been the general case here, and just about anywhere. Deer are more prevelant at this time than at any other time in history. Around here it's due to the favourable winters for their survival.
A problem cougar won't likely just go away if it's bold to be wanting to pick fights with your dog, and keeps coming back. I think you took the right steps, and having your vet vouch with you to the game and fish people.
We have visual proven reports of cougar, including pictures from a reputable resort owner on the lake. It hasn't bothered anyone, but precautions are always wise. The stealth and speed of a killing cougar is no joke to domestic stock or people. The aren't like a wolf that generally are more curious than they are bold to come very close to human habitation. If a cougar is coming that close already to tangle with your dog, that's not a very good sign that it will just go and stay away.
I only once had to kill a predator liviing here near the wilderness. It was a coyote that I ignored until it started getting agressive near the house deck, and tried also breeding with my dog. That was the limit of my patience before it got a load of a 30/30 shot dead. I'd do the same protecting my immediate household companions if it were a cougar, but it's also more dangerous and they are more crafty.
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Old 01/09/07, 05:22 AM
 
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we set up game cameras on the trails today...
Please post pics when you get them!
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Old 01/10/07, 06:12 PM
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well according to fish and game there arent any in this area
of course we dont have bear either or didnt until three got shot .
Guess it must be a long tailed bobcat on steroids
Where in KS are you,Don? My hubby saw one run right across the road in front of his truck right outside Paola,KS last year, and I saw footprints near here that couldn't have been anything else. Bears?? Where??? We are in Franklin co. Been hearing "something" screaming at night here, had a thread about it but it got lost in the crash that day.
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Old 01/10/07, 06:28 PM
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Run it over to Missouri! We are to kill all we see.Conservation Department don't want them to get started here.

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Well I'd like to know where you got your info because the mountain lion is on the states endangered species list
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Old 01/10/07, 07:58 PM
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Well I'd like to know where you got your info because the mountain lion is on the states endangered species list
Ok I might be reading this wrong but they are no longer on the Endangerd List But from what I got from talking with them,they don't want them in the state.



http://www.mdc.mo.gov/news/action/2006/20060407.htm

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Old 01/10/07, 08:41 PM
 
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thanks big rockpile

Would definitely be in defense of livestock or property,family
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Read somewhere that males have a territory that brings them back to the same general area on a schedule of several days. Like human males, the only thing more important than food is getting close to a sexy lady. I believe all big American cats will respond to wounded rabbit calls. If it ever makes a large kill that cannot be consumed in one sitting, it will likely cover the remains and feed again. If you choose to sit up over a kill, I would have my back to something substantial downwind and have red night lighting set up on the bait. There are increasing reports of 'long tailed big cats in the Big Thicket" area of Texas. Of course Bobcats are thick as fleas around here, yet most folks never see them. Good luck with your exciting adventure....Glen
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Old 01/10/07, 10:10 PM
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Run it over to Missouri! We are to kill all we see.Conservation Department don't want them to get started here.

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So I was wrong about the status I still would like to see where you found the info in your quote. More changes may be needed in the future to address changes in the mountain lion's status in Missouri. At present, however,
indiscriminate killing of mountain lions remains illegal. Mountain lions that are killed must be reported and surrendered to the Conservation Department within 24 hours. This is what your link says and the only legal killing of mountain lion is to protect people or property. Oh by the way becareful what you type you never know who is reading these forums.
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