Untrimmed hooves--

How would she even know it was you....she basically took the last person whom she spoke to about her animals.

If those animals grew 5" of hoof per week, How long would that make them when she got them....hmmm....someone not trimming goat hoofs for a mere month...their hooves would be 20" long- 2 months: 40" - 3 months: 60" Gosh in three months the hooves would be FIVE FEET long!!!

gmab!

She must think you are as stupid as she is....duh.

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we trim every 4 weeks. it needs t obe done then. and we do it, as for the person, that never trims hoofes, they wear dwon enough , unless, ytou have over 100 acres per 20 goats, they don't have enough room to wear them down naturally.

You folks are all so great...make me laugh too! "5 feet long goat hooves" oh my! :haha: Animal_kingdom...I wish you could have some words with this lady!

The VET from Hooved Animal Humane Society (HAHS) called me yesterday and we had a nice long chat. Seemes that aprox. 1x a year they get complaints on this woman. So I was NOT overreacting...whew!

They said she has until Friday to trim hooves and that they will pay her a visit to check out all the things I mentioned. Interestingly, the doctor said that no matter how bad a shape that one little donkey was in no one can make an owner euthanize. There have been cases of animals permanently "walking on their knees" but if the owner wants to keep em alive, so be it.

Also, a private owner seems to get "away" with a whole lot more than if she was running a "real" shelter or santuary funded by gov. or donations. I also know that farm animals around here seem to get a whole lot less attention than dogs and cats. What a shame!

I am wondering with all of your experiences with the goat trimming....do any of your animals have the founder? Even the vet said that foundered hooves could never ever grow anywhere near 5" a week!

Well, this experience has been so enlightening to me, and thanks to you all. I will post if the vet calls me with the report after Friday.

Sincerely, Beau

thank tyou from those animals for being a squeaky wheel , and yes shame on the shelter for continualy sending this woman animals when they have recieved complaints on a regular basis about this woman , lets think about this, does it make any sense at all to continue to send animals to someone whom you know is not properly treating her animals, you offered to help and she declined .........
think about that for a moment .....

ok farmers, someone comes to your place offers to shovel poo for you, free of charge, no strings attatched ......what do you do ???
hmmm.... heres the shovel and the wheelbarrow, ill go in the house and fix soem tea and cookies for you , when youre done head down to th creek to wash ill have refreshments and some fresh goats milk and eggs for you ...

heck give me a break , i might be embarassed or something, but im also smart and wont turn down an offer of assistance
just my thinking
Beth

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Not only would they get the tea and cookies (fresh from the oven), they'd get to stay for dinner and I'd pay them something for their trouble.

This lady you're describing is sounding more and more like just another animal collector. She probably thinks she's doing a really good thing by taking in animals no-one else wants. Really, though, keeping those animals in pain and filth is just plain cruel.

The shelters who continue to send her animals knowing the conditions those animals are living in are just as guilty in my book. I know that those people get a warm fuzzy feeling because they don't have to put a perfectly healthy, nice goat (or whatever) down, but to send it off to live in constant pain and filth isn't kindness.

I'm going to add my thanks to the people above for speaking up about the living conditions on that lady's farm. I do hope that she gets her act together and gets those hooves trimmed and figures out some feeders for the critters. Even a bucket tied to the fence usually works fine. An old piece of fencing attatched to a wall at an angle makes a dandy hay feeder. These things don't have to be expensive and fancy, and they don't take much time at all to do.

The poop can get to be a bit much to deal with if you have alot of critters in close quarters. But again, it doesn't take that long to get it under control with a front-end loader. If she doesn't own one, I'd bet one of her neighbors does and would lend it to her.

Give them the shovel and wheelbarrow. And praise God for them! LOL!
I would definately NOT stand in their way.
We had a friend of my ds15 that called the other day. He wanted to come and stay a few days so he could see how a little farm worked.

Oh yay!

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Have not heard from Dr. Lydia grey (HAHS) yet. But I am confident something will be done, and will let you all know.

Now I , am very interested in "seeing" how a farm works....and would love to come and Help out (maybe a couple of days, or just a few hours!) IF you have some animals and are within one or 1.5 hours drive of Chicago....preferably on the N or NW direction of Chicago. I really want some farm experiences. Really.

Sincerely, Beau

We're cleaning out our sheep barn right now, come on over!!! Oops, sorry, we are a bit far away, dang! I would never turn down an offer like that, and when I was single and trying hard to hang onto my little farm, I did have folks who came and helped.

I have a friend who's entire flock of sheep foundered last year. I had no idea sheep or goats could founder, but evidently they can! But it's way worse for a horse :waa: I'm glad someone will be following up with that lady and her animals and good for you for caring enough to ask some questions!

I'm in SW Washington. We need to build a buck barn...and would LOVE the help!
Seriously though, I can't think of anyone that would rescue animals and not beg for help!


We have an organization called PROD (promoting responsible ownership of dogs), they nearly fall over themselves if you come to walk the dogs, bring a sack of toys or food, etc. These people LOVE these dogs that they are caring for and want everyone else to love them too!

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haha, in my experience anyone who is offering to do something like shovel poop free of charge usually would prefer a good whipping over the goats milk and eggs :yeeha:

Last weekend I trimmed 132 goat hooves , 4 testicles , and 1 finger tip. Proper hoof care is one of the top priorities of goat care if they are on soft pasture .

You didn't happen to be making chili?
:haha:

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Gross....


I trimmed about 8 goats and my back hurt after that...you poor soul.
I remember reading about someone trimming hooves while they are on the milk stand. I decided I NEED a milkstand...ugh!

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hmm....sorry about that! LOL!

As for the milk stand, that's where I clip most of mine. Except, I cannot get the left front hoof because my milk stand is secured on the side, so I only have access to one side. For that one hoof, I take them off and do it just with someone holding their collar. Milk stand are very nice. Great for grooming, vaccinations, checks, etc. I LOVE Mine, def. worth its weight in gold.

Lori

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No chilli that weekend. Just regular maintenance on the herd. Trimming , worming , dusting, tagging , and cutting. I would rather trim a little every couple of weeks and not have to fight ugly overgrown hooves.

Hey!

Gotta say I really don't understand your reply! I really wasn't wanting any milk or eggs or anything. I just want to work on a farm with animals! And I do a lot of volunteer work just as hard as this right now in my area.

As for a whipping....my dominatrix and slaving days ended in my 30's back in the late 1990's. Got a bad case of carpal tunnel from using that whip too.

Do I know you by the way?


Beau