Old Roy Dog Food!!!

Yes, chickens are omnivores like humans. However, you wouldn't eat another human would you?

I am truly amazed by this thread. I can't believe anyone in this day and age would feed animal by-products to herbivores. This is a Homesteading Forum. We generally eat what we produce. Don't pour waste products into your animals and then feed their meat and their products to your family or anyone else! ------->me screaming!

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My dogs love to eat duck food...sigh

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Crazy dogs. My dog has a taste for cattle cake (cubes). :haha:

Our cat food doesn't have any byproducts, nor added chemical flavorants, chemical preservatives, ect.

I used to think that chickens shouldn't have meat until we saw them hop into empty deer rib cages to pick off the left over meat after we were through with it. :no: mmm, a bit of meat, mmm a bit of fly, quite the buffet! I think these things are to be kept to a minimum, they are mainly supposed to eat vegetation and bugs.

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I don't believe any of this was meant to be recommendations. Most of the posts I've read just seem to say that one animals likes to steal from another's dish. I don't think it's done intentionally very often...not by many, anyhow. Do you have more than one type of animal? How do you keep your free range chickens out of your cat food?

Sam, our beloved Pyr, can no longer eat outside because the peahens torment him and want to eat his food and he trys to chase them away and they fly over the fence. He's currently eating BilJac Select which the cat seems to think is wonderful. The cat can't have that so Sam can only eat on the kitchen floor when Fritz the cat is locked in the bathroom. Fritz grazes a little all day. Sam shouldn't have the cat food, a prescription diet for urinary tract health. We have to feed Fritz's on the dryer. Life was even more difficult when we had the kittens to feed seperately. My wife wants a poodle puppy. How are we supposed to feed that?

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Sounds familiar. A terrier I once had beelined straight for the layer ration. Didn't matter if it was in the bag or dinner with chickens. She relished and chance that she could sneak in a bit of the feed. I know this is off topic, but I have to keep a bag of baby carrots in the fridge for an occasional doggie snack. I always seem to have at least one dog that also likes to share an orange with me.

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well, technically.......... kissing etc, [and so forth], is ingesting another humans tissues...so, yes. LOL

And chickens (and other birds) will sometimes kill each other and eat the remains in the normal course of their lives. Dogs can eat almost anything, and it wouldn't matter as far as food chain health to humans, as long as the dog is the end of the chain.

I think that if you absolutley, know that the animal will never, be used for food by another animal, human or other wise, it would not be such a danger, but the risk is too high.

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My first goats I got, had gotten old bread from local bakerys as a daily treat (the people even gave me a garbage bag full of it!). I didn't think that seemed too good, not knowing much about goats then. The next does I got, now knowing more about goats, got Sprout Peanut Butter dog bisquits as their treat. I was like, ewww, that's NOT right. I am ADAMENT about my herbivores (horses, donkeys, rabbits, and goats) not getting ANY meat products. Also, I'm very picky about what my dogs and cats eat, and they get very good food - Canidae, Felidae, Natural Balance, Diamond brands. Grazers don't need meat! All my herbivores get horse treats. I even check the ingredients to make sure it doesn't even have white flour in it. Goaties LOOOOOVE horsey treats!

Oh, and by the way, Purina Dog Chow, never was, nor is a "top" dog food. It's crap. I dislike any Purina feed, be it dog, cat, rabbit, goat, horse.

I guess at least if they are feeding the poor goats Ol Roy, at least it mostly is corn, altho Science Diet would be a better choice, with Corn, Soy, and Peanut hulls. Yuck, Yuck, Yuck. Yep, Vicki, IDIOTS!!!!

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I almost lost my little goatie when she broke out of her area and got into the chicken feed. She bloated and I had stay up half the night medicating her and encouraging her to burp. Ruminants need to eat the correct food. Her rumen was messed up for over a month after she stole from the chickens and so we had loads of diarrhea all over the yard. It was not fun for any of us. Goats are pretty silly when it comes to eating. The young ones are little stomachs on legs and need our protection.
Thankfully, she is doing fine now, but I am very careful about her diet and I no longer underestimate her ability to be a little Houdini!

Daybird, yes I have freerange chickens, but they are not herbivores. They are supposed to eat meat (think insects and rotten eggs) and plant material. Also, it's okay for dogs to eat carrots, folks, they chew on grass in nature don't they? And yes, I have numerous species of animals. Carnivores are the last choice for another carnivore to eat. They are farthest away in the food chain from the life-giving aspect of photosynthesis. That's why we eat herbivores and omnivores. And it's not just a human thing.

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OK I know this is the goat board... but given the turns this thread is taking... I have a question.

First my goats DO NOT get any cat or dog food or the like....

BUT when I had alot of pecking and feather eating among my chickens among other things it was recommended I supplement a bit with cat food. When I do this we have almost no injured chickens.... when I slacked off the pecking started again... we do intend to eat both these chickens and the eggs..... is this a bad idea??????

I throw out about 1 1/2-2 c a day of cat food to 60 chickens.....about 4-5 times a week.......

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I'd still eat them. Are your chickens over-crowded? Over-crowding is often a trigger for cannabalism. Have you tried crumbles instead of pellets? Often, they eat pellets way too fast and become bored. Crumbles take longer and give them something to do. What situation are your birds being raised in? Caged all the time? Occasional free-range? How may birds per square foot? Also, different breeds are more aggressive than others. Are young birds with old birds? All these things make a diffences. If you are feeding scratch alone, perhaps they are craving protein and need laying crumbles. Many things to ponder.

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On second thought....I think I would eat those chickens and their eggs, but not sell the meat or feed it to my kids because of not knowing what could be in that cat food. I take more chances with myself. I would try to find a solution so you wouldn't have to feed cat food and then I would stop feeding it. I said i would eat them because i would not want to waste the meat if they are meat birds. I just hate waste. Maybe you could clear it it out of their systems with proper nutrition. Now i am rambling...

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What about worm farming as a way to raise needed protien for the chickens? Seems it would be an extremely economical thing to do since they breed themselves, and feed on garbage.

I think ..
Anything hungry.... will eat anything if they are starving......

If your animals are starving.....then you dont need that animal..get rid of the animal !

Get the right type of feed for the right animal and dont offer strange/weird food that is made for other types of animals..(not cute to me ) ..... this causes diseases and sicknesses that we have NO cure for.. this can cause devastation to ALL of us here on Earth.

I agree!!!

Everyone here wants everyone elses food. The goats used to get out of there pen to get the cat food at feeding time . that stopped when I put the dog between the goats and the cat food :haha: . I found a pile of feathers in the horse section of the barn today and realized the pony bit a chicken who was trying to steal her food. Just seems no one is ever happy !

Years ago I let my chickens eat the left over dog food. I wouldn't intentionally let them do that now, or any other animal that might be intended for human consumption. The real danger, if I remember correctly, is that the animal, once infected by eating the prions from contaminated feed then pass the prion disease on the future generations.

Do some research online. I was shocked a year ago to find how many different kinds of animals are carrying prion diseases...wild animals, too. After reading this thread, I now have a better idea how these things are spreading. I'll do some more research.

I'll have to ask the owners of animals I am considering purchasing what their animals eat, and whether they have access to dog/cat food. I have children, and would like to have grandchildren someday.

We have to take better care of ourselves and our future generations, or we may all have to become vegetarians whether we want to or not...or the survivors will...

You know I just this summer got a G PRY for the goats and my very first question to my goat mentor was "What the heck do you feed your dog or how the heck do I keep the goats from eating his food" She said you have to stand there and keep the goat away from the dog food or they will get acidosis!!! Well let me tell you that is not an easy chore fending off the goats even tho they have their own feed (fed before the dog) So my solution was is that I open the gate and let the dog outside to eat his food and then he goes back in his pen. But I never even thought abt the really bad stuff in dog food now am thinking I should probably go to raw meat and bones diet.

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