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Old 10/19/14, 10:20 PM
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Around here we keep a smelly buck goat with the chickens and female goats as the coyotes can't stand the smell of a ripe buck. Old farmers trick.

Also, my preferred .204 ruger cartridge gets it done at 400 yards!
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Old 10/19/14, 11:13 PM
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I don't know if there's anything to this or not. Locals here say that if a coyote pack finds a dead coyote in the area, the pack moves on. They were a big problem here. Then I found one dead in my field with no injuries. And sure enough I haven't seen any in the two years since. Anyone else know anything about that?
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Old 10/20/14, 12:43 AM
 
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I would say that is simply coincidence. I know coyotes have been both trapped and shot around here, and it didn't phase the rest of them in the slightest.
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Old 10/20/14, 12:46 AM
 
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Just a thought, an adult coyote can get thru a 6"x6" hole in field fencing or cattle panels.
Unless you've got some really small coyotes or they are able to disjoint their shoulders, this is a physical impossibility.
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I was on Facebook and saw these collars for LGD protection

I also found this older ht post about wolves

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Old 10/20/14, 08:33 AM
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SJSFarm, I've seen similar collars on the Karakachans in Bulgaria. Were I in a high predator situation, I would not hesitate to use one!
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Here's one you all may (or not) laugh at, my son goes out periodically and marks his territory...He just told me that recently. No coyotes have been trotting nearby recently and that fox I haven't seen recently either. Don't know if that is what did it or that my LGD is now 6 months old and runs the whole farmyard not just the goats. When she she hears the coyotes in the distance she barks then howls back.....
This is what Nick does as well. He and the dogs go around, "watering the daises" (as he says).

Also, when we hear the 'yotes, Nick will get the dogs started barking. If they are already barking, we join in the barkin' and howlin'. Lots of fun.
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Old 10/24/14, 08:04 PM
 
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Unless you've got some really small coyotes or they are able to disjoint their shoulders, this is a physical impossibility.
Considering our average yote population is 20-30 pounds when full grown around here, it's not impossible. When our Maremma was a 50 pound pup she could climb thru our woven wire squares. I was happy when she outgrew that bad habit.
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Old 10/24/14, 10:55 PM
 
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Yes, 20 to 30 lbs would definitely be considered a small coyote. The adult coyotes around here are in the 60 to 75 lb range.
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I'm actually up at 1:30 in the morning because the coyotes woke me up. They were yapping away twenty feet from my bedroom window, in the neighbor's yard.

60-75 pound coyote is probably crossed with something else; coy-wolf or coy-dog.

The coyotes around here LOOK that big in winter, but they're all hair. They weigh around 30-40 pounds. And at 30 pounds, a couple of them can take down a 100-150 pound elk calf (and elk kick hard with those front feet), so don't underestimate them. I could see a young coyote or a smaller female fitting through a 6X6 space. They're surprisingly flexible and they're long and skinny.

We keep our goats in a solid steel barn from dusk to dawn, which mostly solves the coyote problem. Guard dogs -- more than one -- also help. The coyotes may or may not run from the dogs, but they learn pretty quickly that when the dogs bark, humans show up with guns to back them up.
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Old 10/26/14, 03:32 PM
 
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We have two LGD Pyr dogs in with the goats. Never have had a problem inside the fenced goat areas. We have had large coyotes inside the barn looking for cats...we assume. A couple of years back the varmint dogs tackled a male coyote and killed him just off our back porch. He weighed almost 50 pounds dead. If he was a mix of dog or wolf (we aren't supposed to have coy wolves or wolves in MO., he looked 100% coyote. Whatever he was he was up to no good! The varmint dogs will chase them...but they come back if the dogs don't catch them. They appear not to be too concerned.
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Old 10/27/14, 11:19 PM
 
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60-75 pound coyote is probably crossed with something else; coy-wolf or coy-dog.
They aren't crossed with anything. They can take down a 65 lb calf on their own, and I know that because I've seen them do it.
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Old 10/31/14, 09:49 PM
 
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We have coyotes on our property and they aren't afraid of us or our dogs. We have seem them at all times of day or night. I saw a video of one jumping on top of a 6' block fence with a cat in his mouth! One bounce flat footed and he was standing on top! It made chills up my spine!
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I would go on a mission to eradicate as many 'yotes as you can.

1. Trapping
2. Shooting
3. Dogs

I would even poison them if its legal in your area.

They are an evil menace! In my book, the only good 'yote is a dead 'yote.

Good fencing will help you out as well. Also, you may want to have a shooting party one night. You can leave some food out for them someplace where you (and as many friends as you can gather that can shoot straight) can be waiting for them. When they come in to eat, start blasting.

I don't tolerate them and neither should you.
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One other thing to consider regarding coyotes, if you're so inclined, is fur prices are up.

Baiting them in isn't legal here (and can result in lifetime revocation of your hunting rights, time in jail, and a multi-thousand-dollar fine, iirc) but using an electronic predator call is allowed and works just as well. *grin*

I don't hate coyotes, but the population here needs to be thinned because they're losing their fear of people again. I'm seriously considering getting a caller and doing some *ahem* target practice on the local predator population in about a month, when the furs are better. Last I heard, they're running $25-$35 a hide for good quality skin. And I might get lucky and nail a bobcat while I'm at it, which are running several hundred a hide.

(I HATE bobcats. Coyotes are a lot easier to deal with than a persistent, sneaky, determined bobcat, and a bobcat can tear a guard dog up a lot worse than a coyote.)
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Old 11/06/14, 06:45 PM
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I would go on a mission to eradicate as many 'yotes as you can. ...They are an evil menace! In my book, the only good 'yote is a dead 'yote.

I don't tolerate them and neither should you.
And QueenBee, I have seen something like that in person. I have had people tell me "Oh coyotes can't clear a fence that high". Dead wrong. Glad someone got that on video. Coyotes are incredible hunters, the North American version of the Jackal. Tommyanunnaki I couldn't agree more with the above quotes from your post.
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Old 11/06/14, 08:59 PM
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Just a few thoughts. I've trapped several hundred coyotes, some of those under professional livestock depredation remediation. Coyotes can pop through a six inch square like you can crawl under your bed. Doesn't mean they like to, but they can. They would rather dig under, which they can do in about thirty seconds, if the soil is any looser than cured concrete and there is something they want on the other side. If they do hit something they can't dig through, they can jump a six foot fence like it wasn't there. They very seldom pass through a woven wire fence with a hot wire about six inches off the ground, especially when a mean biting dog or a crazed equine is on the other side. Not that a couple of them can't hold their own pretty well with a dog that isn't familiar with killing things on a regular basis. They would just rather not come to blows with a dog, even a small dog, unless of course they have developed a taste for dog. If you are hearing coyotes and you haven't lost any animals then things are good, because they could have already killed them. Count yourself lucky that you have the nice rabbit and mouse eating pack of coyotes instead of ones who have become habituated to eat domestic stock. Not throwing dead goats or afterbirth out where coyotes can eat them, and doing anything to make the inside of your fence less attractive to them will go a long way. More lights, barking dog, motion activated light and noise devices, electric fence, all work, but none are completely coyote proof.
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