Neighbors goat is CL +

Eeek the Merck pharmacteuticals manual says its can be transmitted to horses, camelids (alpacas and the like?), cattle, water buffalo, swine, fowl and hedgehogs as well.....
as well as (rarely, like if you have a break in your skin)....people

sorry..

I would have a chat with the neighbor and tell them you appreciate them being upfront about the goat. I'd explain that given the information about the positive animal, you've decided you don't want them to share the fenceline any longer. Yes, at one point you agreed to let them use it, but that doesn't mean you have to let them use it forever. Hopefully they'll respond by building a fence on their property.

Well -----! I just got off the phone with neighbor. He refuses to put up a fence! I kindly told him this protects his herd too ( what if mine were sick!) and he said that's life! Grrrr!

Thank ALL OF YOU for your information and advice. I have no idea what I'm going to do. Feeling sad and ticked off right now darn it.

Disinfect with a bleach mix? Using one of those containers that attach to a hose or spray pump like what is used for killing weeds spray the fence and let air/sun dry.

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I swabbed out our garage with bleach/water and then also sprayed fencing with bathroom discinfectant (also bleach based, but it came as a spray) when had our buckling with an abcess quarunteened.... (he came back CL negative but it wasnt the abcess that was tested, thankfully the rest of the goats were negative and tested that way twice...

I mean we had an abcess.. I cannot rule out that its not out their in our environement somehwhere, somewhere I read that with good management, CL becomes one bacteria in many in your environement and its not the strongest....
Just keep your goats hides intact (minimize the risk of cuts and pricks).... hopefully it fades into the background with everything else to compete against...

Our vet pointed out that we had had some construction this past spring and that could have stirred up the ground, released the CL back up to the surface, the little buck was a dwarf and always digging out under the gates etc....

Nobody else abcessed and we found a home for the buck (none of their herd wasnt tested, I gave full disclosure, he was papered and they wanted him for breeding)...

I believe you said that the fence is 2 ft over the property line on your property. So I would be telling him that he can no longer allow his animals on YOUR property, period. As much as you don't want to cause problems, you are w/in your legal right to do so.

If it's 2 ft on your property, boot him off. Warn him you're within the legal right to detach his fence from yours if you don't want him to use it anymore. What he then does to contain his animals is up to him. You don't WANT to be a bad neighbor, but you also don't want disease in your goats, period.

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One thing that always concerns me about fencing issues making sure you have a valid survey delineating your property lines. Unless they were documented by a licensed surveyor, which can be expensive, you may be wasting a lot of good money putting a fence in the wrong place....not to mention that a conflict with neighbors can be much less contentious if you have solid, indisputable information.
Best of luck to you in finding a solution, you're in a tough situation.

If you're just wanting a few goats to keep the weeds down, I'd just vaccinate them and not worry about it. There is a vaccine for goats now. I'd just not sell animals off the property to be sure I'm not potentially spreading it.

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It is always a bad idea to antagonize neighbors. You may be within your 'rights' and you may feel he is infringing on your 'rights' but sometimes you just have to work around things the best you can and not expect other people to have the same knowledge or goals that you have. No point in starting a feud.

I always assume that if I share a boundary with anybody who has animals, that it is MY responsibility to keep MY animals from contact with theirs. You never will have control over the health of the animals on his side of the fence. You don't know what is happening with his animals or if he just ran down to the sale barn and bought every cheap goat he could to fatten for market. Just assume that anybody else's animals are suspect of carrying disease. That is why you either need a second fence or you need to set up a way of rotating the animals around your pasture with a moveable enclosure.

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yup you are in a tough situation I am not sure what I would do....
but yeah I wouldnt want to start something up with the neighbors, but they dont sound like they are worryign too much about the CL thing, maybe wait it out a bit, if all their goats start popping nasty abcesses maybe they will get tired of running around dealing with them and get rid of them....
(the vaccine reduces the incidence of abcessing its by no means a cure, I have no idea of even how effective it is, at that)....

Could you do this?... Use portable fencing for your own goats (once you get them) to rotationally browse. Start in an area as far from that neighbor as possible. In the meantime. Since it is YOUR fence and set back into YOUR property, you are within your rights to move or remove the fence. Alter a corner of the fence just a large enough that his goats will no longer be contained within his property but still cannot enter your fence. You could even give the excuse that you are moving the fence to make room for a garden, compost, brush pile, etc. By law, he does not have rights to build fence on your property in order to tie in to your fence. He really then has no other option than to put up his own fence to contain his animals. You will still have a barrier to keep predators and other loose animals, including his, off your land. Hopefully this will buy time and exert the pressure to convince him that good fences make good neighbors. He seems to be missing the point that his use of your fence has been a courtesy NOT his right. What ever happens, I'd still be hesitant to house goats near that property line.

I agree if you just want weedeaters, then there is no reason to worry about CL. The vaccine will not prevent infection, but it does reduce the number of abscesses (and thus, the number of new infections especially when part of a disease control protocol and good management). Untame weedeaters that only need handling a few times a year for vaccination, deworming, hoof trims and aren't breeding aren't likely to transmit CL to any of your other animals or you.

HOWEVER, if you have any interest in keeping dairy goats or having them be tame pets, I'd definetely plan on putting up another buffer fence. Or as someone suggested, using an electro net and a portable house (or if you want dairy, rotate them around a permanent structure) is a good idea.

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French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.

Update : the neighbor put up an electric wire approx 10-15 feet away from my fence this weekend. I don't have high hopes that this single line of wire will keep his goats away from my fence but I do appreciate that he did something. He also has moved all his goats to a different pasture far away from my house/fence. This is temporary while he keeps an eye on any other goats developing abscesses.

I'm look for this goats to be tame, weed eating pets. So avoiding CL is important to me.

Thanks for all your thoughts and advise. Q

Absolutely!! Must be a huge relief that he is willing to at least be somewhat aware.