Fly control.... HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Farmer Jayne · #41 06/01/14, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by coso

We are in south central MO, right on the AR Border. Definitely not Yankees !!

Jeez! You folks are touchy! Nobody said nothin' about no Yankees!

Seriously, ya'll are geographically north of Florida, where I live. Why is everyone so insecure about their northern-ness?

This ain't no picnic down here.

Alice In TX/MO · #42 06/01/14, 07:09 AM

We understand that Florida has special challenges, such as hurricanes.

Yes, true southerners ARE a bit touchy about being lumped in with the (mentioned) north.
It's just the way it is.

wolffeathers · #43 06/01/14, 07:55 AM

Does the QuikBait work better than a spray system?

I know plenty of folks with a spray system in their barn that sprays every so often.

We are in the process of purchasing a new barn(with concrete floors YAY!) and were considering a spray system.

Alice In TX/MO · #44 06/01/14, 08:38 AM

The advantage of Quick Bayt is that you goats aren't breathing in permethrin every 15 minutes. That issue is what has held me back from metered spray systems.

southerngurl · #45 06/01/14, 09:35 AM

Exactly, the quickbayt is pretty contained.

southerngurl · #46 06/01/14, 09:39 AM

It is imadicloprid, btw. Same thing in advantage for dogs/cats. The main neonicotinoid in use today for crops. The one implicated in killing a lot of bees because it is systemic, so comes out in pollen and nectar the bees forage.

harvestmoonfarm · #47 06/02/14, 09:54 PM

NO FLY STRIPS! I read last year where people hung them in the barn, they fell, goat kids licked them and died from the arsenic the strips were coated with. This was not some second-hand info - it came straight from the people it happened to.

Doug Hodges · #48 06/02/14, 10:34 PM

I hate to open this can of worms but a whole lot of you are north of the Mason/Dixon line. Just sayin

Alice In TX/MO · #49 06/03/14, 06:46 AM

New wikipedia info on fly strips:
Toxicity
The poisons used in some older types of flypaper could potentially be toxic to humans and other animals. Historically, metallic arsenic (a well-known toxin to humans) was used in flypaper.[2] Arsenic extracted by soaking flypaper in water has been used by several convicted murderers, among them Frederick Seddon and Florence Maybrick.[3]

Most modern brands of flypaper contain no poison, but only a non-toxic adhesive such as rosin.

mammabooh · #50 06/03/14, 07:43 AM

We don't have any trouble with flies, and I wonder if it's because we have lots of barn swallows. Also, the chickens share a pasture with the goats and have access to the barn during the day. They keep everything scratched up and somewhat dry.

Pony · #51 06/03/14, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenyTinyFarm

Well then darn! Just sprinkle DE over everything and embrace the fact that flys are just a part of life, LOL. The DE does real well with our chicken coop. We only have a goat "shed" not a barn. I use Lime and DE in and around the most heavily pooped areas after I clean. Flies aren't a problem, but that may be because we don't have a nice big enclosed barn. We are just two goats and 15 chickens so I wouldn't expect major problems even if I did nothing.

I used lime. I used DE. I used both of them right after I cleaned out the goat shed.

There is still a plethora of flies.

I live in south central MO. That's relatively "southern" to my way of thinking, which was developed in northeast IL.

Muleman · #52 06/03/14, 08:58 AM

I am not a fly fan either, but. Flys do lay eggs, which makes maggots, which helps break down dead organic material. Without some flys, (as in spray them all dead with chemicals). Your organic material may take much longer to turn into something useful. I am just saying a person has to look at the entire picture. If you have a large fly problem, there is some source of food and good bedding area for their eggs somewhere. Chickens will go a long way to helping, but as mentioned flys simply cannot live in areas where there is no food source or place to lay their eggs.

Alice In TX/MO · #53 06/03/14, 09:44 AM

Mason Dixon Line fell farther north than lots of folks realize.

Also, my grandfather, Nathan Aldridge Gann, fought for the South.

Doug Hodges · #54 06/03/14, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

Mason Dixon Line fell farther north than lots of folks realize.

Also, my grandfather, Nathan Aldridge Gann, fought for the South.

I think its just south of Springfield.

After looking online, it could be anywhere from the MO/AR line to north of St Louis and Kansas City.

Pony · #55 06/03/14, 11:11 AM

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Pony · #56 06/03/14, 11:12 AM

A little further north than you thought, Doug.

Doug Hodges · #57 06/03/14, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pony

A little further north than you thought, Doug.

Yea. It depends on which map you look at. Some of them have it on the line, some of them have it north of that. I also didn't realize it went all the way up to Pennsylvania.

Alice In TX/MO · #58 06/03/14, 11:20 AM

Missouri had two governments during the War Between the States.

wikipedia:
In the Civil War, Missouri was a border state that sent men, armies, generals, and supplies to both opposing sides, had its star on both flags, had separate governments representing each side, and endured a neighbor-against-neighbor intrastate war within the larger national war.

Doug Hodges · #59 06/03/14, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

Missouri had two governments during the War Between the States.

Yea. Missouri had a lot of conflict. Probably more brother fighting against brother than any other state. Here's the line I always thought was legit. But who knows. I wasn't alive then.

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Doug Hodges · #60 06/03/14, 11:24 AM

I guess people from Missouri can claim either side of the fence.