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Old 04/01/14, 07:20 AM
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I don't think so but I'm not sure. Mine does the same thing but I've asked vet about sneezing and they said nothing and the belly noises are just from their bellies filling up I suppose. If you find out otherwise let me know cause then I have the same problem
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Old 04/01/14, 07:52 AM
 
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Also, can anyone tell by the picture above, what kind of goats these are?
The one on the left is a kinda mocha brown with white on his face and legs and ears. Almost looks like a brown donkey.
The other is black and white with a small tuft of golden brown right between his horn buds.
From images on Google , I am thinking possibly toggenburg? Or maybe alpine?
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Old 04/01/14, 07:25 PM
 
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Ok, a final update,
Goat one thinks the world revolves around that bottle, he has an appetite for sure.
Goat two is now taking 8 to 10 ounces at a time, one time almost 12 ounces.
Doing very good.
I fed them 4 times today, will probably stick to that schedule for a week or so, then drop to 3 times for a week, then two. Trying to get them to eat a little of the mittens 17% goat feed I bought. They don't seem too interested in it, but both are still nibbling on hay throughout the day, and i happened to notice today they were both trying the chicken food.
In any case, they seem very healthy and energetic.
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Old 04/01/14, 08:18 PM
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I'm glad they are both taking the bottle now. I saw you mention that they were getting into the chicken feed and wanted to make sure you knew that it's not good for them. They can get very sick from it.
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Old 04/01/14, 08:24 PM
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That first one reminds me of my mini saanen/sable Cookie.
These are nigerian? The brown and white its hard to tell but is it developing horns yet? The shape and hair looks like it might be polled?
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No, I did not know chicken feed was bad for them. Thank you for the heads up.
By polled, you mean dehorned....right? Neither have been, the horns are just barely starting to grow.
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Old 04/01/14, 08:40 PM
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Did you try my suggestion of making the hole bigger in the nipple? just wondering if I helped :P
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Old 04/01/14, 08:42 PM
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they are both boys so their horns should start popping out by 8-14 days.
Polled is a gene meaning they wont grow horns, some polled have nubs that are rounded and can fool you but horns never develop. It is found in the nigi breeds more commonly and less so in the nubians. The one like I said it is hard to tell but I can't see hair swirls. Anyways it was just a thought
Oh yea there are some ingredients in chicken feed that can cause diarrhea which can cause dehydration ergo not good but they will eat it like candy...
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Married, yes, I enlarged the holes on the nipples as soon as i bought them. Then enlarged them again when we tried feeding and the boys were being stubborn.
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they are both boys so their horns should start popping out by 8-14 days.
Polled is a gene meaning they wont grow horns, some polled have nubs that are rounded and can fool you but horns never develop. It is found in the nigi breeds more commonly and less so in the nubians. The one like I said it is hard to tell but I can't see hair swirls. Anyways it was just a thought
Oh yea there are some ingredients in chicken feed that can cause diarrhea which can cause dehydration ergo not good but they will eat it like candy...
Note to self, keep goats away from chicken feed.
I will try to get a better pic of each of them tomorrow.
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I am betting alpine or togg/alpine crosses. Hard to say for sure. Next time you want goats, try to contact the guy that brought them to the sale...there is just so much stuff they can be exposed to at the salebarn, and especially really young kids will be more prone to getting sick. Keep an eye on their behavior (sick goats hunch up and just look pathetic) and eating habits, and monitor their temperatures. Goats should be about 102-103. I wouldn't worry about snotty nose/sneezing unless they start acting sick. You could give them a bo-se shot and some b-complex to boost their immune systems. Edit to add: Some vitamin C chewables crushed up into their milk for a few days can help boost immunity also.
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Old 04/02/14, 05:01 AM
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It is also possible that if they were just banded, they are not fully recovered from that experience! Do keep an eye on them...that is really early. Otherwise, sounds like you are working good with them and the little guys are coming around. Congrats on not getting any goats...lol! Hey, two is nothing! Talk to Doug...

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Here we get our kids up to 20oz 3x per day. 12oz 2x per day is pretty meagre rations, IMO - I'd never feed that little. They may survive but they will not thrive on that - especially if you're using a replacer. You can cut back to 20oz 2x per day once they are eating a good feed well, usually around 6-8 weeks. You can wean as early as 8 weeks, but good growth will be observed if you feed milk longer. For wethers, I'd be more inclined to wean at 8 weeks than I would if they were doelings - doelings are worth it to keep feeding to ensure they make breeding weight by fall.

Free choice QUALITY hay, quality LOOSE mineral, baking soda, and water at around 2 weeks of age - if they're taking in enough milk, they'll not be too interested in water until they start eating more feed. We also get a medicated SHEEP feed (which will be medicated with deccox or similar, and be balanced 2:1 to prevent urinary calcuil) and mix it 2 parts sheep feed 1 part alfalfa pellets and offer to kids FREE CHOICE.

Practice coccidia prevention starting at 3 weeks of age, and continue every 3 weeks until they are well grown - usually until they are several months old. I usually stop when they are 50-60lbs or so.

Congrats on the babies.
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Mygoat, thank you for the advice
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