Its that time again.

GoldenWood Farm · #**321** 03/20/14, 01:24 PM

I will be praying for your health Miranda! Oh and I just looked at my last two girls due dates. Lady and Trouble are due the same day

. Ziva is due the day after so we will be waiting together

. Lady looks about as big as trouble and actually had me on the lookout earlier this month for babies as well. Must be something about being due on the 28th of this month

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Justine

KareninPA · #**322** 03/20/14, 01:42 PM

You must be breathing a sigh of relief! And all the while Trouble has been sucking up all the extra attention in style!!!

Don't worry - we're all hooked on this thread like a book you can't put down!

StarofHearts · #**323** 03/20/14, 02:19 PM

Oh my goodness! I'm so glad you figured out what was going on with trouble so you can relax and not worry about her for a few days. Take the time and focus on you and get well.

Mommajay · #**324** 03/20/14, 03:09 PM

Oh My Goodness! Miranda, I knew there was a reason (besides Trouble) that I kept checking back.

Hang in there and take some time for you to relax. Sending hugs to you and Trouble- hopefully she'll get things moving for you soon.

MirandaT · #**325** 03/20/14, 08:05 PM

Trouble, being the drama queen she is, decided to act ridiculous tonight. I went to the field to call her up to her kidding stall... its a two acre walk. She would walk five feet, stop, walk five more, stop...took her ten minutes to walk a hundred feet...I decided to sit on the hill and wait. Another ten minutes goes by and when she's about twenty feet from me, she plops down on her side with all four feet sticking straight out....I stood up and hussled over there just to watch her start rolling on the ground like a horse. Really:what:
She even starts spinning on her side in a 360 like she was break dancing....

When I get there, she stands up and walks the rest of the way to the top. She is going to milk this the rest of the way.

Backfourty,MI. · #**326** 03/21/14, 10:30 AM

Well at least now you know nothings wrong with either of your girls! Just be ready for lots of baby pictures when the time comes to make up for the last 3 weeks!

anita_fc · #**327** 03/21/14, 01:07 PM

This has been like a Crazy Goat Lady soap opera! I've been more hooked on your odyssey than my own pygmy doe that is on day 154...

MirandaT · #**328** 03/21/14, 06:13 PM

Remember I posted that pic of my nine month old, Daisy. I was wondering if she was in heat:thumbdown:
She is most definitely not in heat!!! She is pregnant.

Yep. I am officially freaking out. Ask me how I know...

She was trying to kick during her trimming today so I had her held. I had my arms around her belly with my hands under her when I felt her babies kick. Like a little Irish jig. I then grabbed her udder, which is small....but bigger than it should be. Its def there.

She has always been kept with the girls. the problem is that her and her brother are so tiny, they can both squeeze through the cattle fences and woven wire.
Her brother is kept with the big buck, their dad. And every fence they get through, we find a way to close it tighter. We had the break out with her dad in January...and she roams the pasture, so I guess she could have backed up to the fence, through neither her or her dad have ever shown interest in each other. Now Dexter, he escapes at least twice a month. I'm freaking out because I was told to never bred a die before a year old or that will stunt their growth and they will die from labor!!!!!!

She's not huge, but with that mucous last week, I assume she is within a month or so of kidding.

What do I do. I don't think its her dad, if it is....shell most definitely die. He's bigger than her. If its her brother, at least he's the same size.

What should I do?? Had this ever happened to anyone??
Is my doe going to die???

Her mom is mini like her and did fine. She was fourteen/ fifteen months when she kidded.

GraceAlice · #**329** 03/21/14, 06:23 PM

What breeds?

I had a doe get pregnant at 5 months old and she kidded out twin bucks at 10 months old. She didn't die. Lived to have yet another single buck.

She should be fine. Unless she is an nd and daddy is a saanen or something. There's nothing you can do but hope for the best. Is definitely not a good thing but not exactly a horrid thing.

By the way, my 5 month old was maybe 30-40 pounds when bred. She was not stunted or harmed in any way besides a little tearing. The buck that bred her was probably close to 100 pounds.

MirandaT · #**330** 03/21/14, 06:24 PM

Here's her with her mom, and yes her dad and brother are out now since everyone is knocked up, we let the boys out to go graze this afternoon. The girls get locked in the barn at night, boys go to the other fenced areas so they don't hurt the girls

MirandaT · #**331** 03/21/14, 06:25 PM

She's the one on the left

GraceAlice · #**332** 03/21/14, 06:27 PM

Looks like she has twins so at least it shouldn't be a ginormous single. ..Then again I could be wrong. What breeds are they?

MirandaT · #**333** 03/21/14, 06:34 PM

Grace, she's fainting goat, so is her dad. Full blooded all the way back.
She's almost the same size as her mom now, I'm praying its little tiny twins.... Also praying its her little tiny brother not the brute

GraceAlice · #**334** 03/21/14, 06:52 PM

Oh, well if they are the same breed, it shouldn't matter.

Even if her brother is tiny, he could throw kids larger than her dad does.

I bet everything will go fine. If she is a good size, it's pretty much the same as breeding an adult.

MirandaT · #**335** 03/21/14, 06:56 PM

Oh good. I didn't know that about Dex throwing full size babies...hmmm.

GoldenWood Farm · #**336** 03/21/14, 07:14 PM

Actually it would be MUCH better if she was bred to her dad. I would worry about issues with the babies if they are from a full blood brother. That is when you have some serious inbreeding and could have deformed babies or something along those lines

. That being said looking at her if she is almost the size of her mom I wouldn't worry too much.

We had a 1st Gen Mini doe get bred full size and kidded out as a small 9 month old. It was a total oops breeding and by the time we realized it she was already 4 months pregnant. She kidded out fine though we missed the birth and the HUGE buck kid she had died. But Ping delivered him on her own (though it probably took a while) and while she was sore and a bit torn she was perfectly fine and within a few days you would never have known.

Ooops breedings happen and it sounds like your girl should be fine. From what I remember Fainters are a pretty tough breed and I haven't heard about any kidding issues. Just keep a very close eye on her as she gets closer because you will want to be there for the birth.

Justine

GraceAlice · #**337** 03/21/14, 07:39 PM

My 10 month old kidded out two bucks like I said, and she did it all on her own. She tore pretty darn badly, but she raised those babies up fat and healthy.

And yes, good point justine.i hour it wasn't her brother.

If her brother has big baby genetics, that means she has them too, and the babies will be big and maybe even deformed. If her dad had smaller genetics, the babies will be smaller and most likely won't have problems.

GoldenWood Farm · #**338** 03/21/14, 07:48 PM

It isn't about big goat or little goat genetics when it comes to brother or dad. All are full blood Fainter so that is okay

. But a full blood brother on his full blood sister is asking for some genetic mutations. I am not trying to scare you Miranda but I want you to be prepared. I have every confidence that your doe can deliver these kids. I have had two does kid out at 10 months (bred at 5 months by accident) and they did just fine. It is when you have like a 6 month old kidding out that you worry.

Justine

KareninPA · #**339** 03/21/14, 08:02 PM

Your goats are beautiful! That buck is VERY handsome.

MirandaT · #**340** 03/21/14, 08:17 PM

My goodness. Ok...

Praying it was her dad. Please please please be the dad...with small babies

This sucks, lol...worse that trouble taking a month to have a baby.