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01/21/14, 12:39 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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Wow, that is so odd, I know exactly what cud is of course but have never even heard of using it for another goat! Interesting... well, you learn something everyday. 
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01/21/14, 12:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
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Originally Posted by GraceAlice
Wow, that is so odd, I know exactly what cud is of course but have never even heard of using it for another goat! Interesting... well, you learn something everyday. |
You should read some of the interesting biologics they're discovering about humans, same concept. A well balanced gut make for a happy being.
Skeeter, there were some very common signs of labor our goats displayed that were tell tales signs. First was the long string of amber goo, - that is when we steered them right into the birthing stall. Next was the pawing and nesting behavior. The early labor was accompanied with stand up, lay down, get up, lay down restlessness. The heavy labor was preceded by this odd, far away stare they each made - as if they were looking into the distance deeply contemplating some notion. Very soon after that, we had kids. Hope that helps.
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01/21/14, 01:21 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: North Carolina
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Stealing cud is a great way to lose a finger or two ! Be careful !!!
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01/21/14, 05:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: VA
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She was displaying those signs, the pawing the ground, laying down, getting up, laying down, getting up, pawing the ground some more. Plus she was grinding her teeth and panting. That is when I called the vet.
But I was never totally convinced it was labor because she never progressed and I never saw actual contractions.
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01/21/14, 05:17 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: VA
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Originally Posted by Frosted Mini's
I watch the healthy goats until I see a cud ball coming up their throats, then smoosh it into their cheek and (with gloves and my hands still end up a little smelly!) I run my finger alongside their cheek so as to not get bit by the pointy molars, and swipe out some cud. It is the best probiotic you could give a goat...way better than any probios, yogurt, etc. The juices are actually the best thing according to some articles on cows I have read...I don't know how you got the juices out, did you tube the donor goat?
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Nancy, how do you "smoosh it into their cheek" and what exactly does that mean if you would explain please?
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01/21/14, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Texas Coastal Bend/S. Missouri
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One problem is when you swoop down on them with the intention of stealing a cud, they read your mind and swallow. 
Carry a bucket and a metal tipped drench gun full of water. Grab the goat just under the jaw, keeping her from swallowing all the cud. Using the drench gun, rinse her mouth over the bucket, catching all the green slime.
Drench the sick goat with green slime water.
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01/21/14, 09:45 AM
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Location: Twining, Mi.
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So glad you had the vet out & have everything under control now! Hubby I'm sure didn't know but he does now!
Good job SkeeterBlue!
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01/21/14, 06:44 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Idaho
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I just use the side of my hand to push the cud up against her cheek. That's what I meant about smooshing it. I like Alice's method! You do have to sneak up on them, for sure. 
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Frosted Mini Goats
Alpine and Nigerian Dwarf goats
2 Jersey heifers
1 guard llama
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01/21/14, 08:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: South East corner of NM
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Hope Babette is feeling much better!
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01/22/14, 09:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: VA
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Babette is doing much better. I finally got some probiotics into her (though still not having luck stealing a cud). I've been giving her banamine 1x per day, penecillin 2x per day, and thiamine 3x per day. She is only getting hay to eat for the next several days plus free access to all the baking soda she can handle, and lots of warm water. Hopefully we are past the worst of it. Course I have to watch her like a hawk to make sure she eats enough right now. Ketosis on top of everything else would just be peachy.
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01/23/14, 11:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: N. Central Florida
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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
One problem is when you swoop down on them with the intention of stealing a cud, they read your mind and swallow. . |
One of the absolute goat truths. I'm still laughing. 
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01/23/14, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: VA
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She is doing very well, has her appetite back completely, is no longer belching like a sailor and her eyes even look better. She is still on a hay and baking soda only diet for a couple more days, but the probiotics did the trick. I didn't have any probios on hand, couldn't at all steal a cud (those stingy buggers!), but I have been brewing kefir. So, I took a big old gob of kefir grains straight from the brew jar, pried her jaws open and made her eat it. What a huge difference I'm seeing in her!
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01/23/14, 11:54 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Idaho
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Kefir is good stuff too. Glad she is feeling better. Cant wait to see what she has!
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Frosted Mini Goats
Alpine and Nigerian Dwarf goats
2 Jersey heifers
1 guard llama
And whatever else shows up...
http://www.swfarm.net/
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02/05/14, 03:34 PM
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Legally blonde!
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Oregon
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*Bump* Skeeterblue how is your girl doing?
Justine
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