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12/30/13, 06:39 AM
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I'm sorry it was such a bad kidding for you. Glad you saved the doe.
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12/30/13, 08:13 AM
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Good work! I had an awful delivery much like that, several years back. I was alone, with no help, and had to cut the baby up in order to deliver it. Saved the doe, but what a rough experience!
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12/30/13, 08:24 AM
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Oh I'm sorry about the baby - but glad you were able to save mama.
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12/30/13, 08:27 AM
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It seems there have been several deformed kids this year. I will have to ask my vet what the word is around me. Should I be watching for deformed kids.
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12/30/13, 08:34 AM
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So sorry to hear. Good that you were able to save the mother.
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12/30/13, 08:51 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bellflower, MO
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my first kid loss I was devastated the doe had been attacked by neighbors dog and she aborted in the middle of the night, a perfect little doeling. Think what got to me most about that is the mother herself went into a depression for awhile and kept looking for the baby.
I get so mad at my Doe's when they don't wait for me ...not really but kidding time is always a bit nerve racking.
Did the vet give any clue as to what may have caused the deformities?
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12/30/13, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: IA
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I am sorry that you had to have a rough first kidding. Thankfully, that is not the norm for nigerians.
If you start milking mom, she may accept you as the baby and give you good milk to boot. Either way please watch her, milk if needing to, so you can prevent her from getting mastitis.
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12/30/13, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punchiepal
I am sorry that you had to have a rough first kidding. Thankfully, that is not the norm for nigerians.
If you start milking mom, she may accept you as the baby and give you good milk to boot. Either way please watch her, milk if needing to, so you can prevent her from getting mastitis.
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Thanks! I was just coming on to ask about the pros/cons about putting her into milk production. We were already aware of making sure she doesn't get bagged up, but wasn't sure about long-term milking.
Actually, we received her bred specifically for the milk production. The kid(s) was going to be a bonus. But you know how it is, once you start taking mental possession.
Just now going out to collect her colostrum. The vet says it will freeze up to a year and can be used for any kids that have their mother reject them.
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12/30/13, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nehimama
Good work! I had an awful delivery much like that, several years back. I was alone, with no help, and had to cut the baby up in order to deliver it. Saved the doe, but what a rough experience!
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Thanks for the encouragement.
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12/30/13, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: IA
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OK lost last one trying again. LOL
I would milk her out and if you aren't sure about her disease status, heat treat the colostrum, freeze for next year. That way you are ready to go.
We pull all our kids to bottle every year. Then we milk the mom's 3x a day for a minimum of 30 days, if at all possible, to stimulate production and simulate a baby feeding more often though out the day. If her udder is congested she may need warm compresses to stimulate let-down.
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12/30/13, 03:25 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Their milk isn't that good to drink for about 2 weeks (it just tastes weird), sometimes less sometimes more. So, just keep that in mind when you go to drink it, and you might want to just save all that milk for future bottle babies, or feed to other animals. Just about any other animal on the farm likes milk, including pet dogs and cats.  I just didn't want you to taste her milk, and be like, oh holy heck, this is awful, forget the whole deal! when it will be really good later.
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12/30/13, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosted Mini's
Their milk isn't that good to drink for about 2 weeks (it just tastes weird), sometimes less sometimes more. So, just keep that in mind when you go to drink it, and you might want to just save all that milk for future bottle babies, or feed to other animals. Just about any other animal on the farm likes milk, including pet dogs and cats.  I just didn't want you to taste her milk, and be like, oh holy heck, this is awful, forget the whole deal! when it will be really good later. 
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Thanks, but we have two ND's that were in milk when got them. Delicious!
Everyone talks about "goaty" milk, but as yet we have not experienced that. We have an Oberhasli that will be kidding in the spring. Hopefully then we will have volume AND good taste.
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12/31/13, 07:17 AM
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Location: Twining, Mi.
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I am so sorry you lost the kid but thankfully you have the mamma so next year will be better.
Usually problems are not as common as it seems when reading here & I'm so sorry this had to be your first kidding experience but it sounds like you handled the situation perfectly.
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