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Old 12/24/13, 11:35 AM
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Urinary Calculi. Stones in his urethra blocking his ability to pee.

Don't feed male goats very much feed/concentrate/pellets at all in order to prevent them.

http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar...calculi06.html
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Old 12/24/13, 11:39 AM
 
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Sorry what is UC? I give him 16% Lucas Feed and plenty of good hay. Plus free access to minerals. He eats the hay but only a few nibbles on the feed.
Urinary Calculi, think kidney stones. It can cause painful blockage and even death. It is a serious problem for meat goat producers, as grain feed increases the possibility of calcium deposits in the urine. Most dairy producers do not feed bucks grain. It is most often seen in wethers but can also occur in bucks. There are preventative supplements you can feed to counteract the build up. Hopefully another herder here will give you details. If severe, it requires vet care to dissolve/break up deposits. I have never had a goat with UC personally, so I can't say what to watch for specifically, other than what I've heard. They may act depressed, lose appetite and walk as if they are in pain.
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If you feed grain he should also get ammonium chloride to prevent UC from killing him. It is extremely painful.

You might want to give him free choice baking soda. Then he can self regulate acid stomach.

You want a calciumhosphorus balance of 2:1 or higher to keep the stones from forming.
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Old 12/25/13, 09:31 AM
 
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Sorry what is UC? I give him 16% Lucas Feed and plenty of good hay. Plus free access to minerals. He eats the hay but only a few nibbles on the feed.

UC is uraniary caluculi. That means he has a urine stone.
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Old 12/30/13, 11:24 AM
 
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How is your buck doing now? Is he any better?
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Old 01/06/14, 06:01 PM
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He is still not well. He only eats fresh green leaves, a little bit of minerals and baking soda. Been giving him gatoraide to get fluids in him. Still stands hunched with tail down and looking so skinny. Gave him goat drench a few times too.
Are Nubians this sensitive? I have had fainting/pygmy crosses for 18 years (my original 18 year old doe just passed away), but they were never sickly they were very hardy goats.
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He is still not well. He only eats fresh green leaves, a little bit of minerals and baking soda. Been giving him gatoraide to get fluids in him. Still stands hunched with tail down and looking so skinny. Gave him goat drench a few times too.
Are Nubians this sensitive? I have had fainting/pygmy crosses for 18 years (my original 18 year old doe just passed away), but they were never sickly they were very hardy goats.

Could you get a picture of him? What is the brand of mineral you give him?
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Old 01/06/14, 07:21 PM
 
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Have you done a fecal? Intestinal damage due to cocci?
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Nubians are no less hardy than any other dairy goat.
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Symptom sounds just like one of ours last year. We finally put him down because he was just wasting away and the vets were clueless. Necropsy said he had severe acid ruminosis. The lining of the rumen was burned so badly that the food was not digesting properly. Resulted in an impacted second stomach, for which there is no cure. We suspect acorns, because we fed them no grain. His eyelids became pale near the end because his food was not digesting.

Caught early enough the treatment would have been baking soda or milk of magnesia, thiamin and anti-inflammatory, like Banamine, and serious hydration (not lactated ringers, saline ringers, lactic acid would have aggravated the acid rumen even more).

BTW he was a nubian wether. Do his eyeballs look sunken in away from the sockets (indicating dehydration).
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Just to add a note...

Two symptoms that do *not* match your goat's condition.

Body temperature was below normal (99-100), and he dropped cud from his mouth occasionally. Cud that dropped looked like the fresh greens we were feeding him undigested.
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How is he doing?
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