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SeaGoat 01/16/14 05:43 AM

No swelling. She's only walking like that after she gets up, like her back legs might be asleep our wobbly. She definitely walks normal once she's up and moving. I checked on her around 2 and no babies. Looked again 30 minutes sashimi and none, unless she's hiding them. She only gets up for treats now..

Clovers_Clan 01/16/14 06:44 AM

There are several reasons she could be walking funny, some are normal and some are cause for concern.

There is, of course, the doe with multiples who is just so big she has difficulty moving around. She's heavy, bulky and awkward.

I had a yearling doe a few years back, bred to a Boer. She was carrying a HUGE single buckling. Days before delivery this buckling was fully engaged in the birth canal, still growing and pressing a nerve. She hobbled a bit as if her back end was asleep all the time. They were both okay in the end but it was a difficult delivery. His front legs were curved and bowed from his knees being pressed against his head and his forelegs crammed in the canal.

Most does waddle just before delivery, simply because all those ligaments are so loose.

Limited movement and awkward gate can also be a sign of milk fever, symptoms quoted from Onion Creek:
"have difficulty walking and/or rising from a sitting position"
"hind foot dragging"
http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar...milkfever.html

Pregnancy Toxemia can also affect a doe's gait. Watch for signs of swelling in legs or feet, or walking or limping as though her feet hurt. This is more common in does who are overweight or get little excersize.

Hope its just loose ligaments and the babies are on the way SOON. Full moon tonight!

SeaGoat 01/16/14 08:21 AM

I had a dream the other night her back legs were like noodles. It scared me and I kept thinking pregnancy toxemia! in my dream :D

She looks like shes holding them higher today, but the bottom of her stomach is low.
Im about to head out and feed everyone so Ill take a closer look

SeaGoat 01/16/14 09:26 AM

I know when ligs go soft its "within 12 hours" but is 12 hours always the case? Could it be 2, 5, 8?

Squeaky McMurdo 01/16/14 10:22 AM

Hey, My hips are pretty stiff and sore when I first get up after resting for a while too and I'm not even halfway done with My pregnancy. Hopefully it's just that for your goat

Farmer Jayne 01/16/14 11:34 AM

My hips feel like that, too, but I'm not even pregnant. My Ladybug decided to wait. It was certainly because I mentioned it on here. Jinx. From now on, Mum's the word until I have baby pics. Can't wait for yours, SarahFair. Hope all goes well

GraceAlice 01/16/14 11:55 AM

I had a doe soften 5 hours before kidding, i've heard of a doe softening up while in labor.

nehimama 01/16/14 12:13 PM

I had one deliver on the 13th. She had NO noticeable belly drop, NO goo stringing. What gave her away was that I just happened to notice she was "nesting" (pawing the bedding). I checked ligaments, and they were GONE. 2 hours later - doeling!

nehimama 01/16/14 12:21 PM

Another sign I normally watch for is when their tail looks boney and raised. I can see this condition from across the pen, and none of my does had that look this time.

Clovers_Clan 01/16/14 03:15 PM

I have had does kid in an hour or less from losing ligs. But remember its all a matter of when you notice, they could have been loose before I noticed.

Here's what I have witnessed from this year's kidding: one doe that had all but lost ligaments for weeks kidded SEVERAL hours after she finally lost them. And another didn't loosen a bit until 24 hours prior, then barely lost them before going into labor. So it may be you can expect the rate of change to be consistent. Then again, they're goats, they defy expectations!

Frosted Mini's 01/16/14 07:14 PM

Ligaments totally gone (cannot feel at all), is WITHIN 12 hours of kidding, whether that is an hour or 12 hours, can't say. I have, however, felt on a doe that had ligaments about 2 hours before she actually kidded! She was giving me other signs of labor though. So, I'd say, every doe is an individual, and there's not much way to tell what each one will do! LOL, sorry!

SeaGoat 01/16/14 07:56 PM

Let's just hope she holds out till morning. I'm not good about getting up and down in the middle of the night.
She seemed to be getting around the yard pretty well today. When I came out to put her up she started running, but quickly decided that want going to work and waddled the rest of the way :D

GraceAlice 01/16/14 11:10 PM

Also, does can lose ligs on and off, so it's not always within 12 hours. I had a doe who tricked me and tricked me. Finally, she lost her ligs. I thought, 'Yes! within 12 hours. Here we go.'. And what do you think happened? lol

SeaGoat 01/17/14 10:40 AM

It might be today! I could get my fingers almost all the way around her tail and it *looks* like shes having contractions.
Shell be eating, suddenly stop, circle the pen, look at me, look up... all the while it looks like her hips are bending ever so slightly forward..
Then her "pooch" will also pulsate... but sometimes when while shes doing this, she poops.
So idk if its contractions or pooping

Squeaky McMurdo 01/17/14 10:44 AM

Pooping and birthing require many of the same muscles, so pooping in labor is common no matter what species.

Come on babies, come on babies, it's your birthday!

GraceAlice 01/17/14 11:22 AM

She may be in early labor... or maybe she's just worn out from all this waiting! lol

Does her vulva get super tight when she does this? Tail arched?

SeaGoat 01/17/14 11:26 AM

Her tail looks arched naturally.. sometimes when she does it its either straight up or arched.
and I only saw her vulva once, full view (she doesnt like me at her backside) and it look a little sucked in compared to the puffy its been

GraceAlice 01/17/14 11:29 AM

Did I post a picture of a contraction? I can't remember...

When my doe had contractions, she would walk sort of hunched and her vulva would be completely sucked in. She would sort of stumble to walk and then go back to normal. 15 minutes later we had a baby on the ground. :)

SeaGoat 01/19/14 07:57 AM

She's still holding on.
Today I am withdrawing treats.
No more apples, bananas, oranges, crackers ... nothing! Till I get my kids.

dozedotz 01/19/14 10:25 AM

Is this a case of "the watched pot never boiling?"

Clovers_Clan 01/20/14 06:03 PM

Good Heavens! It's been a month, any updates?

SeaGoat 01/20/14 06:14 PM

Only that she's holding on tight
Her udder is now completely full, just not "strutted"

She's been out and about in the yard tooling around like nothing's going on

Ford Zoo 01/22/14 10:42 PM

I've been gone a few days. Any kids yet?

SeaGoat 01/23/14 11:24 AM

Nope. I just have taken a "maybe tomorrow" approach to help me get through the days - lol

SeaGoat 01/23/14 08:08 PM

Okay, for real this time. I think it will be tomorrow.
She stayed under the porch most of today, is moving slow, won't hardly eat her treats, and doesn't want to "hang out"

Tomorrow is my birthday. Let's hope she gives me a birthday surprise!
Last time she kidded I had to go the the ER and have surgery. I was gone for 3 days and she waited till I got home and kidded an hour later.
She loves me :D

GraceAlice 01/23/14 08:18 PM

Well, don't say it's getting real now, you are ruining any chance you had!

;)

Good luck :)

Clovers_Clan 01/23/14 08:39 PM

Well, Happy Birthday! I hope gives you doelings for a present and she doesn't keep you up all night in this cold!

raccoon breath 01/23/14 11:22 PM

LOL!! I just love these threads where it looks like today is the day..for a month or longer. LOL Remember to save your pics when it is delivery day taking pictures from the side of her hips, then looking down at the low back, lady parts and any other changes you notice so you can compare next year and be able to pin point better when it's time. A few years back, I did this, and the next year, I was just about to start another one of my kid countdown threads on a goat group, then I pulled out my pics and realized we weren't there yet. With the help of the pics, I knew it was time within 24 hours.

Happy Birthday ;) I didn't see a birthday cake smiley so here's coffee and a donut :) :coffee::donut:

SeaGoat 01/24/14 05:48 AM

Thank y'all! And I like coffee and donuts just as well :)

It's a nice brisk 11 degrees this morning, I couldn't get her to poke more than her head out of her dog house lol

DamnearaFarm 01/24/14 10:11 AM

Happy Birthday!
And hopefully it's a happy BIRTHday, too!

dozedotz 01/24/14 10:21 AM

If you had only told us a month ago when your birthday was! Shoot, we ALL would have known the due date! LOL...Happy day!!

LFRJ 01/25/14 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dozedotz (Post 6925059)
If you had only told us a month ago when your birthday was! Shoot, we ALL would have known the due date! LOL...Happy day!!

Where's Minelson when you need her!

SeaGoat 01/25/14 10:18 AM

Guess she doesn't love me.
No babies and no signs they are coming today either

dozedotz 01/25/14 10:31 AM

Shame on her! Oh, well, some the best gifts are the "belated" kind...

GraceAlice 01/25/14 10:37 AM

See, I told you that you blew your chances...

LOL, well... hopefully she will have them soon, dang it!

Happy Late Birthday. :)

Strange Bear 01/25/14 02:16 PM

You just aren't squeezing her enough. LOL
Good luck when she does pop.

raccoon breath 01/25/14 02:58 PM

I had a doe last year and I watched her get close. I new it was going to be that day. She was contracting on and off, stopped eating, and the body changes. She just looked at me like, "What do you want?!!". I went inside for 20 min to have lunch, then went back out and heard a baby goat cry. Little devil...lol!! She had twins on the ground. Last year was a big year for twins around here :) I hope this year is too.

ajneal30 01/25/14 06:52 PM

My doe is still hanging on too. She was very angry today, but still shows no signs of being in labor. She is just upset that I don't go out to check on her as often as I did when she was faking her labor. Guess she should hurry up and kid so I will go out and spend more time with her and the kid(s).

SeaGoat 01/26/14 09:47 AM

She stinks. Is that weird?
Like she continuously smells like those nasty goat burps when they spit their cud up..
Maybe she's just running out of room in there?
She needs a wide load banner

dozedotz 01/26/14 10:04 AM

What?? I thought this was IT! I was expecting drum roll: Ta Dum: announcing our 4 new doelings or something...oh, well, carry on...
Meg is due this week. She is slinging goo on a regular basis, has turned more amber than clear. Her belly is dragging the ground. So, what do you think? March? LOL


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