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Old 12/05/13, 02:22 PM
 
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Have to disagree with you, Pony. Nubians have the highest butterfat of STANDARD size goats...4.8 to 6% by test. But Nigerians are higher and so are Pygmies. 11% is not out of the ordinary for those two breeds and obviously Pygmies are not even dairy goats. It is those small teats and amount of milk produced that are the problem with MOST (certainly not ALL) of the smaller breeds. Kinder which is a cross of Nubian dam and Pygmy sire OFTEN (not always) ...and that OFTEN is not an exaggeration..have much sweeter milk because of their Pygmy sire. The amount they produce varies depending on what the breeder is going for and the stock she has. The breed standard is a balance between milk and meat (60% on the meat and up to a gallon on the milk...more likely 3/4 gallon in our experience). Why that boer milk was so sweet? I don't know. The breeder said that her Champion doe had always produced sweet milk and also a lot of it! Lucky lady.
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Old 12/05/13, 02:26 PM
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Off the wall remark but have you checked her ligaments and bag to see if she might be due soon? The reason I mention it is that she seems to have pretty straight back legs and that's one of the signs that I look for as a warning that the ligaments are getting slack.
Of course she could just have straight back legs.
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Have to disagree with you, Pony. Nubians have the highest butterfat of STANDARD size goats...4.8 to 6% by test. But Nigerians are higher and so are Pygmies. 11% is not out of the ordinary for those two breeds and obviously Pygmies are not even dairy goats. It is those small teats and amount of milk produced that are the problem with MOST (certainly not ALL) of the smaller breeds. Kinder which is a cross of Nubian dam and Pygmy sire OFTEN (not always) ...and that OFTEN is not an exaggeration..have much sweeter milk because of their Pygmy sire. The amount they produce varies depending on what the breeder is going for and the stock she has. The breed standard is a balance between milk and meat (60% on the meat and up to a gallon on the milk...more likely 3/4 gallon in our experience). Why that boer milk was so sweet? I don't know. The breeder said that her Champion doe had always produced sweet milk and also a lot of it! Lucky lady.
I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

Now where is Wags, so I can make comments about milking with tweezers?

(She hasn't been around much that I've noticed, at least not in the goat forum. Anyone else see her?)
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Off the wall remark but have you checked her ligaments and bag to see if she might be due soon? The reason I mention it is that she seems to have pretty straight back legs and that's one of the signs that I look for as a warning that the ligaments are getting slack.
Of course she could just have straight back legs.
hmmm... all of my full size goats seem to have straight back legs. The posty leg thing never worked for me.

Good point though.
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Honestly, I have not checked her ligaments as she doesn't look the slightest bit pregnant, at least not to me. And she isn't bagging up either as I checked her udder when I got her. Never heard of the straight-legg / posty leg thing for a sign of pending labor.

I am most definitely going to try milking her. Figured it wouldn't hurt getting her into the milk stantion especially since that's where I tend to give vacs & meds & trim hooves!
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If you're going to milk her, get her used to the stand and pretend to milk starting a month pre-kidding... she'll need an increase of grain anyways. I'd probably wait till an udder started to form and do it then. Udders usually start 4-6 weeks pre kidding (give CDT/BoSe/Copper around then as well!) I've broken many does to the milkstand this way and never have had a rodeo breaking a FF doe to the stand.
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Old 12/06/13, 01:22 PM
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The straightening leg is my first sign to start watching. It goes with the loosening ligament. At least for all my girls, especially the first timers. I have had ligaments loosen and tighten back up again but the leg never lies.
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