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11/05/13, 04:17 PM
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aka RamblinRoseRanc :)
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Oh, Honey...he'd be out of the basement or UNDER the basement around here!
I'm soooooo very sorry.
<<<hugs>>>
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11/05/13, 04:23 PM
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If you are saying you owe him $$ for the trip, I would say the cost of the little goat he killed along with a bit more will just about cover it. Sell the trailer and kick his butt and the 4 year olds to the curb. "Nice to know you, get lost."
I would never admit that he existed anymore. He would not exist in MY world. I would ignore him and the 4 year old until they left. I mean ignore them. No talking, no answering , no nothing. I bet they get the hint.
Alice in Virginia
P.S. Yeah, I can be real nasty.
Oh and P.P.S. If my husband choose this piece of excrement over me........well the BIL wouldnt be the only one sitting on the curb.
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11/05/13, 04:31 PM
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Isn't one of those vows you take when you get married,"Forsaking _all_ others?" I agree with Fellini.
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11/05/13, 04:42 PM
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Location: KY South Central
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Sorry but you made your bed. If your going to tolerate animal crulety for want of money then your giving this sicko free rein to do what he wants. You as much to blame as him at this point.
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11/05/13, 04:57 PM
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Crazy Goat Lady
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Location: Central Indiana
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He would be gone, and it would take a lot to keep me from helping him take a dirt nap. Mess with my family, even the caprine kids, and you learn quick you messed with the wrong mama bear.
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11/05/13, 05:38 PM
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I really doubt that throwing accusations at her is all that useful. It's a tough situation to be in asking a brother to go against a brother for you. Perhaps she just needs time to express to him/ them just how bad the situation is. I am not willing to judge her situation.
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11/05/13, 06:41 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: near Abilene,TX
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Have you talked to him to get his side of the story.......I would listen and go berserk....
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11/05/13, 06:44 PM
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Location: Northern IL
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So sorry for your loss.
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11/05/13, 06:47 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: the flat land of Illinois
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I might take my surviving goat and move myself out, leaving dh and his family behind.
I am so sorry!
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11/05/13, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: South Dakota
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I am outraged! I can't even speak. I am so sad over this
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11/05/13, 07:44 PM
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Caprice Acres
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MI
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Did/does he know what goats require and that this one needed bottle fed/special care? Was it still a little bottle baby?  I know if I don't tell my dad specifics or tell him what needed to be done, he'd do the same thing with no bad intentions. He just does not 'get it' on his own, though he'll try his hardest if he knows what is expected and what to avoid/look for when problems arise.
That being said, if he knew the responsibility and did nothing anyways, I hope he takes care of his 4 year old better.  Scary. So sorry you lost Gemini, she was cute.
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11/06/13, 08:14 AM
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Sorry for you loss. That sucks. are your other goats ok? I am not sure I would be good with throwing a four year old out. Kids can't help that their parents are stupid!!! Has he shown any remorse for this? I wish I could send you one of my bottle babies to help heal your heart. {{{Hugs}}}
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11/06/13, 09:39 AM
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Katie
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Location: Twining, Mi.
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Your Brother makes me sick & I don't even know him!
I'd kick him out & put the babies in the basement!
I am so sorry for your loss but angry too, there's no reason for what he did other than inhumane!
Hugs to you though cause we know you love those little goats so much!
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11/06/13, 10:39 AM
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Location: Idaho
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Wow! You have gotten some very mean responses. It is easy for everyone else to "write" what they would do in your shoes, but they don't know the whole story. They don't live your life.
I am so sorry that your dear little goat was killed. It is just terrible! Do what you feel is right. hugs!
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11/06/13, 11:15 AM
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Not meaning to sound judgement at all and I am not but did you ask him to do this and tell him what to do? Did he agree to do it? If so, then he should have. Does he take care of his 4 year old or do you? If he does then I would tell him he really doesn't belong in the country since he has no idea what the animals need and then give him a few weeks to find a place. If he does not take care of the child then perhaps you will need to offer to let the little one stay on with you until he can get his feet under him but he will still need to find himself other living arrangements since you can not afford to lose your livestock.
Honestly I haven't been in your shoes but almost the opposite. My son and his soon to be wife wanted to live out here near us. They put in a little cabin and bought a little bottle goat, chickens and some turkeys. Son worked from sun up to sun down and thought GF would tend the animals. My husband wouldn't let me intervene for a bit but after so long I just couldn't help it. I let the turkeys out to range since their pen was so filthy I don't know how they didn't die and I began sneaking bottles down to the little goat. I knew he wouldn't eat too much because I watched them feed and he got very little. I finally blew up and needless to say they decided to move back to the city where she was from. I love my son and my DIL but they definitely didn't belong in the country. They wanted to be country without the work. Not happening around our place.
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11/06/13, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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We have people in our family we consider to be "difficult."
How in the world they can do some of the things they do is a source of wonderment and pain for everyone. If a person has a drinking problem or drugs, then you can at least blame the substance abuse for their behavior. However, sometimes there is a disconnect that is just not explainable or understandable. Very, very hard. You have our complete sympathy as you deal with this complicated person and situation.
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