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10/21/13, 01:11 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Hollowdweller
I have all sorts of types but the best are keyhole feeders. The hole must be high enough that they have to lift their heads up to go in or they will reach in, pull a mouthful out and take their heads out and waste.
Also you need at least 1' deep box at the bottom or they will just reach in thru the narrow part and pull the hay out thru the 4" slot rather than putting their heads in.
I have 1 feeder, not fixed and on it the keyhole slots go to the bottom of the feeder and there is always more waste out of that one.
If you have a feeder where the goat reaches up to eat you will nearly always have more runny eyes and coughing from hay particles. Where when the goat reaches down you don't have this problem.
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I agree. Keyhole feeders save the most hay from being wasted by far. They are awesome.
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10/21/13, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Mountain Home, Arkansas
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Originally Posted by lindamoo
Do I need a photobucket acct to be able to upload pics. I've never done this before. I have got some pics of the hay box I made my daughter that works so well.
Linda
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Use the app. Its real easy to upload pics
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10/21/13, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: True Northern California
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Originally Posted by trnubian
I agree. Keyhole feeders save the most hay from being wasted by far. They are awesome.
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Yes they do save the most hay but, unless they have a clear view through the feeder, they make it possible for a goat, who has their head into the feeder, not to see another coming up. A goat can get a terrible broadside from another goat while their head is caught in the keyhole bottom.
I stopped using mine when I saw that happen. The doe's front legs got swept out from under her and she was scrambling to get up so she could get her head out of the narrow keyhole whille the other doe hit her again.
I have toyed with different designs of a keyhole since then but have never come up with one where the goat was not actually trapped in the narrow opening.
I have found that raising the feeder up with a foot rest at the bottom, so the goat has to stand with the front higher than the rear legs, does discourage them from moving around so much and dragging the hay with them.
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10/21/13, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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OK. I'm going to try and post a picture.
One picture is of the ground showing months and months of wasted hay.
The other two are of the feeder.
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10/21/13, 02:51 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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If this doesn't work I'm going back into lurker mode.
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10/21/13, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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I am using the HT app Manage Attachments, the images have downloaded and are listed under Attach Files but when I Post Quick Reply the images don't go through. The images were taken with my iphone and uploaded with a Mac if that makes any difference. They are .jpg images.
I have one image attached to this msg.
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10/21/13, 06:27 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Don't give up on the pics! 
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10/21/13, 07:55 PM
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We have 1 like the 1 Doug posted a picture of only ours I ordered & bought from TSC, I like it but it was a lot more cost than the $50.00 his dad paid.
Sure wish I saw 1 like that around here Doug, That was a Great deal.
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10/21/13, 10:59 PM
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Location: Idaho
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Send them to me, Linda, I can get them posted for you. nakpo0903@gmail.com
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10/22/13, 05:21 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Mountain Home, Arkansas
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Originally Posted by lindamoo
I am using the HT app Manage Attachments, the images have downloaded and are listed under Attach Files but when I Post Quick Reply the images don't go through. The images were taken with my iphone and uploaded with a Mac if that makes any difference. They are .jpg images.
I have one image attached to this msg.
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I put them straight from the iPhone. It's not the camera icon. It's the one beside it. 
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10/22/13, 05:22 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by Backfourty,MI.
We have 1 like the 1 Doug posted a picture of only ours I ordered & bought from TSC, I like it but it was a lot more cost than the $50.00 his dad paid.
Sure wish I saw 1 like that around here Doug, That was a Great deal.
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I wish I could find that kind of deal too. Right place right time. He's always finding stuff like that.
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10/22/13, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Originally Posted by lindamoo
If this doesn't work I'm going back into lurker mode.
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10/22/13, 08:49 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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This is 9 months of manure and hay. The manure is about 2" thick and the hay is but a mere handful.
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10/22/13, 09:02 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Sorry about the excess images. At least I got an image to post. I'm afraid if I try to edit the pics I will remove everything.
Linda
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10/22/13, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lindamoo
If this doesn't work I'm going back into lurker mode.
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Yeah Doug ended up posting mine for me too....
I ended up with 14 pics (same photo) buried on my desktop and gave up....
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10/22/13, 12:12 PM
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Okay, looks like you got them posted fine, but here's the only one that is missing.
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Frosted Mini Goats
Alpine and Nigerian Dwarf goats
2 Jersey heifers
1 guard llama
And whatever else shows up...
http://www.swfarm.net/
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10/22/13, 12:46 PM
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Lindamoo- clever idea. First do you have problems with goats ending up on top of the grate in the feeder? Especially kids.
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10/22/13, 01:18 PM
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Lindamoo- clever idea. First do you have problems with goats ending up on top of the grate in the feeder? Especially kids.
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I wondered the same thing. I really like that idea.
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10/22/13, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Yes they do save the most hay but, unless they have a clear view through the feeder, they make it possible for a goat, who has their head into the feeder, not to see another coming up. A goat can get a terrible broadside from another goat while their head is caught in the keyhole bottom.
I stopped using mine when I saw that happen. The doe's front legs got swept out from under her and she was scrambling to get up so she could get her head out of the narrow keyhole whille the other doe hit her again..
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I have saanens and enough keyholes for my entire herd so that makes a big difference. I wouldnt use keyholes for alpines.
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10/22/13, 02:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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I am also very intrigued by your very unusual (to me, anyway! I've never seen one like that) hay feeder, Lindamoo! "A little larger than a square bale"...floating grate (is it heavy...looks sort of like a hog panel) and is that lovely black doe a mini (?) or standard? Am wondering, too, if your daughter ever had somebody jump up there and foul the hay with urine or berries...or worse, get stuck. It really is an interesting idea...just want to get some idea if there are any observed drawbacks at this point. Thanks very much for sharing your idea!! My husband just came in and he, too, is interested! He wants to know how high do those four corner posts rise above the bale? Thanks, again.
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