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I'm a "moron"...
I ran across this tonight while looking for something else. I've let the whole thing go - just not worth the aggravation any more - but she's still trying to make herself out to be the victim and make me out to be the "bad guy." :ogre:
http://threeofhartsgarden.blogspot.c...deal-with.html |
Sorry you have a neighbor that is such a idiot. It doesn't take hours for dogs to kill. Lost more than one animal in the time it took me to get to the house and back to the field. My friend has had over 40 geese, numberous chickens, ducks, one sheep. One nanny while she was delivering and her twins. This kidding season they lost 19 kids. To say the least I was tired of talking and calling the sheriff so I practiced the 3 SSS rule. Shot, shovel and shut up. They where going to take us to court. Game camara, videos and witnesses in our favor decided them to drop the charges. Especially when they seen the counter suit.
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I have no background on this story, but it didn't take much more than two seconds of reading to know this guy wasn't getting it. It is not some weird sect of homesteaders! It's anyone with livestock! Dogs do not have to run with a wild pack to kill. I don't know if there is anyone who has animals any length of time without some kind of dog incident or a few.
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I don't care if the dog is "playing" with my livestock if it isn't mine and its in my livestock's pen its getting shot. Fences don't always protect them and if the person with the dogs had a proper fence then obviously there wouldn't be a problem.
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Yes, fencing works both ways.
We have neighbors up the road that have 3 dogs, one being a great dane with no fear, that get out and run the creek-bed in the field across the street. Heard them fighting with each other or who knows what at night. Hope they stay on that side of the road. |
Girl ---WOW ---self centered---vengfull--female canine---pity her dogs ---I am shocked and peed --we have all messed up she did but since she can not accept her responcablity you are her new center of life. She has given up her future to viley attack you ---she has lost everything and she only has you to hurt ---what a wasted pitifull future for her.
Now, you girl yea --you have had it tough --are you giving up --------no. You ask for help when you need it --your give it when asked -- you are respected --for your strenght and foritude. You have a future and hope. Close the book on her and use that energy --time and focas she is trying to steal from you. YOU HAVE A LIFE. |
That blog is an example of the pet-mindset idiocy that motivated me to retire from dog training six years ago. Don't tell me that dogs don't eat their kills. Twelve years ago, my husband discovered five dogs in our barn and corral. They had killed one sheep and eaten most of one hind quarter. The second sheep was not yet dead but had so many chunks ripped out of his hind quarters that my husband had to shoot him.
After that experience, we got LGDs and have never lost another critter. We no longer have to argue with irresponsible pet owners. Our LGDs do all our talking. That person is not worth any of your time or energy. From the replies on the blog, it's pretty clear anyone with an ounce of common sense recognizes the real problem. Anita Crafton Dan-Ani Pygmy Goats Hansen, Idaho |
Read the replies. They are all on your side. My reply is, too. :)
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Wow! Way to ignore reality in support of your own agenda... I KNOW pet dogs will kill & eat livestock. Why? Because my own dogs have done it. I love my dogs, and do all I can to keep them safe, but I have also made it very clear to others in our area with livestock- if my dog is loose and attacks their animals, I will understand whatever measures have to be taken.
Let me be very clear though- my own dogs have killed and eaten my own animals (and in circumstances that did not warrant being put down). I wouldn't be on here using my dogs s n exmple if I knew they had ever attcked someone else's livestock. |
Yep, she couldn't have been very pleased with the responses to her blog :rolleyes:
Other peoples dogs might be aggressive, but her sweet little things, never. |
Must be she got rid of the responses, I didn't see a one.
Hey, I've had neighbors like that. THEIR dogs are perfect, it's always the other dog that's the problem. Anyone who says hounds don't hunt for the kill has never seen a Beagle catch a rabbit or a Bluetick catch a coon. I'm always surprised when I meet people like that. Never figure out how anyone so stupid can actually remember how to breathe..... |
LOL - she did delete every last one of them. Some people just can't handle the truth.
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Hmmm, there's no comments on her blog post now....
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Yup, she took them down. I added a new one. :)
Apparently she didn't read the responses to the article about the incident, either. They are NOT in her favor. |
Dude, I have known the sweetest dogs in the world who will attack livestock. MY OWN DOGS will attack livestock, and they are super friendly and sweet, one is a lab and one is a newfoundland. They are kept AWAY from animals. This is all about responsibility and where you decide to keep your animals. If a dog wondered onto my property and some of my animals were killed... why would you NOT assume it was the LOOSE dogs on your property?!
This just makes me sad. One, for her dogs, two, for your goats, three, for how she chose to deal with it, and four, for this even happening. They were three things killed that evening, and SOMEthing obviously created this problem. Well, I think we can all say that if her dogs hadn't wandered off they wouldn't have gotten shot. And how does she have the right to call you names about the fencing you chose to keep your goats IN, when she can't even keep her dogs IN!? Goodness. |
Dude, I have known the sweetest dogs in the world who will attack livestock. MY OWN DOGS will attack livestock, and they are super friendly and sweet, one is a lab and one is a newfoundland. They are kept AWAY from animals. This is all about responsibility and where you decide to keep your animals. If a dog wondered onto my property and some of my animals were killed... why would you NOT assume it was the LOOSE dogs on your property?!
This just makes me sad. One, for her dogs, two, for your goats, three, for how she chose to deal with it, and four, for this even happening. There were six things killed that evening, and SOMEthing obviously created this problem. Well, I think we can all say that if her dogs hadn't wandered off they wouldn't have gotten shot. Not that it was the dogs fault that it got out, some dogs just do that. And how does she have the right to call you names about the fencing you chose to keep your goats IN, when she can't even keep her dogs IN!? :umno: What you did is called protecting your livestock. Your animals. Your responsibilities. This is WHAT PEOPLE DO. I can't exactly blame this on either one of you, nor do I feel the need to, but the way she chose to deal with it just irks me. Never in a million years did awkward situations need to be dealt with in this way. Both of you were hurt, so if these were my goats, or these were my dogs, I would have sympathy for her and would expect her to do the same. That keeps things in such a way that the situation is dealt with in a timely and considerate matter. Not one were everyone just goes bashing eachother. Oh, and harvestmoon, I don't mean any of this to sound rude to you or anything. I know you did the right thing. Goodness. RIP goatie(s) and doggies. |
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It's a sad thing all the way around. I don't know of anyone that takes joy in having to shoot a dog, but sometimes there isn't a choice. Apparently she can't get that through her head. I have issues with her stating that some homesteaders are dog haters. I have a neighbor like her, that believes his dogs do no wrong and everyone's "mean" because we don't like his dogs running loose. :rolleyes: There are truly morons out there that will never understand property lines. |
Her animals are her responsibility. Her responsibility is to keep them safe and secure. Seems to me she can't face the fact that she is responsible because she didn't take care of them. IMHO, you were right and she can't face the guilt so she blames you.
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My dogs have gotten loose and raised havoc here. It all comes down to my personal beliefs that some people have no business even being allowed loose in this world. But I have to ask since I guess I am not as educated as she is, if field fencing is designed to separate fields, is that to keep a bigger, meaner field from jumping on a smaller field, or what ? |
BobbyB, I'd imagine it makes it easier to harvest and keep track if you run a business. And to keep them from growing into eachother I suppose.
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Wait a minute.. if I take fences down so I'm not separating fields, can they breed and multiply? Because that would be super! *grabs some wire cutters and heads out the door*
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What part of her dogs being inside your fence did she purposely ignore?
Probably a card-carrying PETA member too. |
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She stood in court and testified that her dogs would regularly come home covered in blood because they were 'trained blood scent dogs' and would find dead animals on the 'hunting preserve' across the road - and then she wondered why the judge found in my favor! As Reba would say, "MO-RON!" |
Oh my gosh. What an idiot. Why'd I bother posting lol!
BTW, the fence cutting thing doesn't work. They just sit there. Maybe they are missing some minerals or something. No interest at all :( |
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Wow! She lives in he own world! I have shot stray dogs for being on my property going after my animals. She is clueless. More animals will suffer cuz Of her.
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I added my own 0.2 cents to her "blog". What a bunch of garbage. BTW....is that a picture of your barn? I would be more than ----ed if she is posting pictures of my property on her little blog.
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Man, the fact that her dogs killed and mangled your goats was incidental detail in her post. Then it was onto how you had no right to kill her dogs, how much she missed her dogs, how evil you were, never mind the fact that they KILLED a goat, nearly killed another, and wanted to kill your chickens. Some people have their own little worlds where everything is someone else's fault.
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I'm so sorry about the loss of your animals. I know how much it hurts to lose them. At least no one's buying into her SSS (Shimmering Sheep Shards)
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I was also upset by this blog post.
I have a dog that is the sweetest thing. She loves people, children, she's extremely submissive and loving. She is also an amazing hunter, and I know without a doubt if she would hunt and kill livestock. She would most assuredly eat whatever she caught as well. If my dog were to go after and kill someones livestock on their property, I would take ownership of that. It is my responsibility to keep her safe by giving her boundaries, keeping our property fenced, and supervising her. If she ended up killing someones livestock and got shot, it would be my fault...no one elses. I wouldn't blame her, she is a dog, and by nature hunting is what they do. Why some people don't understand this is beyond me. |
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I also left her a comment earlier but now it seems she has deleted all comments and all new comments have to be approved before the appear on her blog. |
Well.. the shoe is about to be on the other foot.
I did some reading on her blog and she got herself some chickens. Listed turkey vultures as predators that will eat her birds. Hahahahaaa. That's funny right there. And she is weighing the possiblity of getting some goats of her own. Let's all check back in in a year or so and see how she feels about wandering dogs and losing her livestock then. And I am guessing that she is able to keep chickens (though she is opposed to free range all the time and at night) and can consider goats now that she doesn't own killer dogs. Can't see her being able to let her birds roam around her yard with them around... Irony. And she just keeps slamming about fencing.. post after post. Sheesh. |
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Lordy that lady is getting more hits from here.
Check this on of her's' Wednesday, May 22, 2013 I Just Have to Vent From a Theological View (warning it is about accepting when a person does wroung to another ---and the right thing to do) |
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And I forgot to say I am so sorry about your goats... I teared up reading this article, thinking about the goat and the dogs both. |
LOL, if you go to the 2012 Blog and scroll way down she has added to her statements. It is kinda funny.
Evidently she is way more edjumakated than any of us morons are. I don't care what she says, I love, love, love my field fencing. |
Check this out for even more entertainment. She lost one of her hens on July 3rd to a Red Tail and is ticked because hawks are protected, yet the state won't reimburse her for the hen! Can anyone say, "poetic justice?" LOL
https://www.facebook.com/ThreeofHartsGarden?ref=stream |
This lady is a few cards short of a deck. I hope you have copies of her blog to take to court, especially since she's going on about libel and slander.
I honestly doubt she knows many farmers. Now, I know farmers. In fact, I have farming family. Big dairy operations. Not one of these successful "morons" has boards with their field fencing. And the reason the law states animals harassing livestock can be shot is because it's not the farmer's responsibility to keep livestock off their land (save areas with open range laws). Don't get too worked up about what she posts. I don't know a single livestock farmer that would side with her., even with all her amazing credentials. Credentials don't make up for a lack of common sense and personal responsibility. And I'm amazed she has so much livestock experience when her own Group page on facebook says she a city girl that moved to the country. |
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