New Babies Sick

It sounds like you are getting things under control. I'm so glad. You write from your heart, and your babies are darling. I sincerely hope the path of recovery is quick and all encompassing so you can get back to the joy of having baby goats.

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Good to hear things are improving.

I used to think cocci in young kids was impossible, but have since learned different.

I would keep up the Di-Methox, and feed them milk.

IMO, you shouldn't water down their milk. Just feed milk, as mother nature intended and don't over feed. Make sure each bottle is the same temp, don't fluctuate between cold and warm bottles. A lil pinch of baking soda in one bottle a day and I bet they'll be back to normal in no time.

Too often I see people do TOO much to new babies, creating more problems than before. So try not to jump on giving every remedy you see.

Good luck!

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Again, thanks so much for everyone's thoughts and opinions! It's been extremely helpful. Knock on wood, but they seem to be getting better! They are being more active, and you can just tell they feel better. Such a huge relief to see them getting spunky!

Glad to hear they are doing better!

I've never had any babies that wouldn't over eat. I think they are all piggys! LOL

I had picked up a bunch of kids from a commercial dairy and lost a couple before I just sucked up and treated for coccidia. I thought they were too young to treat but it was kill or cure time. Since then, I treat them for coccidia at any age - as long as they need it.

always thought cocci had a 21 day cycle. Why we give it at 21 day intervals. If so how can a week old baby have cocci? I'm confused now.

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Judy
Oat Bucket Farm
Central Kansas


The past is valuable as a guidepost, but not so if used as a hitching post.

Prairiedog - exactly! But the drug of choice for cocci also would treat bacterial diarrhea - they use it for shipping fever (respiratory) - sulfa drugs are pretty broad spectrum. So maybe it was actually taking care of a bacterial issue . . .

Just remember to re-innoculte their gut after any anti-microbial treatment with probiotics. I get a powder that I put right in their bottles. Weaned kids or those nursing moms, I mix the probiotic powder in a cup with power punch and fill a syringe - not an exact science but I get the probiotics into each kid. I also use that method to give probiotics to my adult goats - and yes, I get mugged in the pen!

OK I understand treating for the diarrhea just had trouble calling it cocci this young.

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Judy
Oat Bucket Farm
Central Kansas


The past is valuable as a guidepost, but not so if used as a hitching post.

Without a fecal test - can't really call it coccidia but when babies are squirting poo, you gotta treat for all possiblities.
Most vets won't do a proper fecal test either - so I have difficulty trusting their word when they say the fecal is negative.

Getting my microscope set up where it won't get knocked around my kids and critters, is on my someday list.

My buckling had coccidia in his fecal-at just over a week old! It's bazaar, but I guess it is what it is...

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Ok, so I have another question. Geez, I feel like that's all I do is ask questions these days! Both girls are doing better, not as snotty, not as coughy, and pretty good appetite wise.

How active should these guys be? They follow me around, run and jump very occasionally. After they have their bottles they get pretty sleepy. (not that I blame them, with a tummy full of warm milk!) I know they've had a stressful week, and I'm totally having new mom jitters, but is it normal for them to spend most of their time sleeping? I just want to make sure I'm not missing something because I'm a total newbie! (I hope this isn't a stupid question!)

They are babies. Their time, in order of how much is spent, should be in the following order:

1. Sleeping. They should sleep a lot.
2. Eating. Soon you will see the "piggy" stage, when they get comfy.
3. Causing trouble.

Of course, they spend 100% of their time being cute. They can do all of the things above in the cutest way possible, but most especially #3.

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Peace,
Caliann

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There are no stupid questions here! Ask anything you are wondering about

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I just remembered where I learned about feed stress and clear runny noses - I used to work at a veal calf farm. We fed 500 calves - and in the veal business they push those calves as hard as they can so feed stress is very common but if you see it in it's early stages and just back off the feed a tiny bit and do you increases a little slower, they do fine. With that many calves, we'd mark that calve to be "cut back" on his feed when we saw a runny nose - and leave a bucket of water or electrolyte for him.

I applied that same logic to feeding baby goats - clear runny nose means start of feed stress - so cut back the amount of 'feed' but not the amount of water. But if you are feeding liquid only diet then you need to give a more dilute feeding and gradually increase it as the baby can handle it.
It has worked for me.

I had somebody feed babies for me a couple days while we attended a conference on autism - I figured that with dumping the care of 20-25 baby goats on somebody, I'd end up losing at least one or two. Well, when we left, there was on with an iffy status - so I had him on a cut back program. But I feed these guys 4 times a day so I know each one by how they looked - nobody else could do that. And they were at that stage where they climbed everywhere! They'd switch pens so my poor friend was swamped! She had a couple of them ----- out - but quickly got that under control with pepto and cut back for a feeding and got them right back on track. She did good! But I think she actually fed a couple of them piggys twice and that's what made them get diarrhea. I just told her to give pepto at first sign of diarrhea and cut back for a feeding. She got them all through.