Goat not in Labor! Or is she?

MirandaT · #41 01/01/13, 05:15 PM

Went back in, and could not find that cone shape, but to be fair she was not cooperating ...Lol. 9 days, not hours...days. And ive told the owners, they are not worried. So a vet call would be their call. Shes out there talking now...I just dont know. Ill keep watching. and updating

MirandaT · #42 01/01/13, 05:16 PM

ps while im feeling for teeth and reaching for legs,...can i rupture the sac??

MirandaT · #43 01/01/13, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by morningstar

Could she not be in active labor? Did you mean 9 hours or 9 days? Do you have any pictures? Honestly, a vet call may be in order here soon, depending on the situation. How is she acting? Is she still ruminating (chewing cud)?

She was still chewing cud earlier today. I hadnt noticed if she was this afternoon...what does that mean?

Frosted Mini's · #44 01/01/13, 05:54 PM

If the kid is right there, her cervix is wide open, so you won't be feeling it. Her laying down lifting her butt up in the air and screaming is her pushing. Maybe she is giving up or getting tired, so not pushing as much. I would go in and get that kid or you will have a dead kid and dead doe. If it's bubble is intact, it is fine to burst it, and will help both lubing things up and you will be able to feel better.

MirandaT · #45 01/01/13, 06:09 PM

Ill go out and sit with her awhile and see if i notice pushing or anything...Bout time to feed anyways. This is driving me crazy....Come one babies...Lol. Ill be back...Thank you

MirandaT · #46 01/01/13, 07:09 PM

Nothing has changed.... Is there a smiley icon for going crazy

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Think that about covers my ragged exhausted nervous nerves..... Come on Centavo, dont be late.

GoldenWood Farm · #47 01/01/13, 07:12 PM

I would try and go in again if it was my doe. It sounds like you felt a kid and for some reason something isn't going right. I know I probably sound like a broken record, I hope something changes for you soon.

I will tell you that I have had does stop their labor if the kids just won't come.

Justine

Jyllie63 · #48 01/01/13, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MirandaT

She is not a first timer. (obviously)
She is huge. Her vulva is bright pink, looks like there is a bowling ball in it when she lays down

This bowling ball thing is what concerns me. Could it be a prolapse?

CaliannG · #49 01/01/13, 07:20 PM

Miranda, do you, by some miracle of the Divine, have injected CMPK?

Sometimes does will stop labor if their muscles get exhausted, and CMPK is what they need to get started again.

Honestly, since you are new, I think it is time for you to get her to a vet. If she was fully dilated hours ago, this has gone on too long. She is in trouble.

Lizza · #50 01/01/13, 08:08 PM

I agree and wonder if what you aren't seeing isn't a prolapse and is not in active labor. I also agree, it is time for a vet to be called to take a look or at the very least someone that knows what they are looking at and for, do you have anyone that can come look? You can load her up in the morning and take her to the vet to save an on farm vet call.

Lizza · #51 01/01/13, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MirandaT

She was still chewing cud earlier today. I hadnt noticed if she was this afternoon...what does that mean?

When they stop chewing cud and ruminating they are in a bad way. A not ruminating goat is a goat trying to die. Not that they always will be chewing cud, I only asked because I wasn't sure you had a stethoscope to hear for rumen activity. If they are chewing cud and making pellets then they are ruminating.

Remember, less is more for most things, as in, don't do so much intervention you make things worse. Don't cause a problem when there isn't one to begin with, that is where finding someone, preferable a vet, comes in. If it has been 9 days and she is no worse, I am thinking this is not labor, 9 days she would be dead by now.

I'll be thinking of both of you!

Frosted Mini's · #52 01/02/13, 04:04 AM

I think what the OP meant (correct if I'm wrong) is that she had the dropped look, etc, for 9 days, not all these signs of active labor until now (restless, nesting, pushing, etc.).

Any updates??

LFRJ · #53 01/02/13, 09:38 PM

I keep returning to this thread to see the outcome, hoping for the best. One of our does is starting to look round so she's either being fed real good, or we'll be approaching our first kidding season this spring. Bumping this forward in hopes the OP will return. Miranda, please don't leave us hanging!

Backfourty,MI. · #54 01/03/13, 06:14 AM

Hope the doe is doing good. Been checking & rechecking this thread for updates so I hope all is well.

MirandaT · #55 01/03/13, 11:06 AM

Hey everyone. Sorry it has been a busy couple of days... Like i said, she had dropped in the side, been losing mucus for a week and a half, having what i thought was contractions. Everything pointed to labor. So as instructed in the last few comments, I scrubbed up and went inside, I was positive that what i was feeling was her vix open about three fingers wide. She continued on with the pushing and grunting and up and down and aggrivated restlessness. Still no progress. Well, Tuesday abour noon she was def pushing. Just like she had been, but closer together. about every twenty minutes, half hour, id hear her pushing, and grunting.. By 5pm there was no doubt about it that she was in labor. By 9pm, i was positive that it would happen VERY SOON!!! But still no streaming, no strutting, no pawing the ground. STill eating. By 2am wednesday morning...She was STILL acting the same!!!

I last checked on her at 2:30... Went inside and fell asleep...I was beyond exhausted. I woke up at 630 and ran to the barn thinking, surely i would find a baby....NOPE! NO BABY! STILL!!!!

So I called the owner, told her we HAD to have lute, or the vet or something!! She was 2 hours away from being at my house...WHAT TO DO NOW!! Just so happens, Holly called. (breeder in TX) She called to see how the goat was doing, I told her, and she insisted I had no time!!! 17 hours of labor is tooooo long!!! So,with her instruction, I washed up, and went in, She told me to go farther, I went further... She said "search". I searched! I felt a round mushy ball feeling....She said break it. I broke it....It was difficult, But i did it...a rush of fluid came, Holly said, go deeper....i went deeper. I found feet. I pulled....She was BREECH. So I wiped her up, got her to breathe, swung her upside down..Then reached back in. OMG!!! Baby#2, A huge boy. Normal presentation. Got both out cleaned up. They began crying. I was shaking and crying. Holly was congratulating me....she said go back in, i went back, couldnt find anything....So i waited, 10 minutes later, a 3rd sac!

I popped it, and waited a few seconds...nothing. And mama goat was so exhausted she wouldnt even push. So i went back in, Two front feet......wheres the head?? Where.is.the.head? ok, i finally found the head, it was laying on its back. So i pushed the baby back, sweeped the neck, got the head in position and pulled... Baby #3. 3 healthy goats, 2 girls. 1 boy. And mama is doing fantastic!!! Thank you all for all your help! I couldnt have done it without you...

Minelson · #56 01/03/13, 11:11 AM

WOW!

You done did good. It's amazing mama and babies survived after being in labor that long!

JBarGFarmKeeper · #57 01/03/13, 11:12 AM

OMG! Good Job!! I am flashing back to my nightmare weekend!!!!

rileyjo · #58 01/03/13, 11:12 AM

Awesome! Thanks for the update.

GoldenWood Farm · #59 01/03/13, 11:35 AM

Good job MirandaT!!!! You did amazing! I am so glad that everything turned out alright. I kept thinking about you and the doe and wondering how things where going. I just want you to know you did amazing for having never done anything like that before and bless Holly for calling when she did!

Yippie for healthy babies! Okay so now of course we need pictures otherwise it never happened

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Justine

MirandaT · #60 01/03/13, 11:54 AM

I am trying to upload to the comp now...WIll get some up asap.

Spent all night up every two hours to make sure each of the triplets fed...Boy am I tired, but elated!! God is good