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12/11/12, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mironsfarm
i use this and it works great! doesnt waste much hay either !

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THIS!!!! is what I want!
I saw these for the first time many years ago and I've always thought they were awesome!
I do still have a few goats with horns, though, and kind of worry about whether or not that would be a problem.
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12/11/12, 10:30 PM
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Here's my round bale feeder for the main doe pen:
Sucks right now, I had to cut extra big holes in it so my new(er) boer does wouldn't get their horns stuck. Well, that meant the babies just hop right in, and big goats can do it once they bent the wire... which popped the one weld, which results in almost as much waste as without a hay feeder at all. >
I want to make one like this, but with the curved part being a cattle panel bent in a U-shape, and panels front/back to keep it in place:
Or one like this, with roof (the curved part once again being a cattle panel) :
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12/12/12, 08:06 AM
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That gray one Dona posted is on my want list, but it will have to wait until we get a bobcat to load the bales with...
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12/12/12, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mygoat
Here's my round bale feeder for the main doe pen:
Sucks right now, I had to cut extra big holes in it so my new(er) boer does wouldn't get their horns stuck. Well, that meant the babies just hop right in, and big goats can do it once they bent the wire... which popped the one weld, which results in almost as much waste as without a hay feeder at all. >
I want to make one like this, but with the curved part being a cattle panel bent in a U-shape, and panels front/back to keep it in place:
Or one like this, with roof (the curved part once again being a cattle panel) :

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I couldnt' get any alfalfa rolls this year but I usually do. I love that feeder!
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12/12/12, 08:56 AM
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Gee Hollowdweller!
All I could see was a Saanen's udder!?!  I tried to concentrate on the feeder..but no go..wow.
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12/12/12, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Mainelyhappy
Blue Run Farm, I would LOVE to use a net. I have my goats in a pasture with a Halflinger mare who struggles with her weight. I have read on this forum that goats can get caught up in nets. What to do, what to do?
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Daryl, I have a Fjord with the same problem as your Halflinger, lol. I would NEVER use a regular haynet for the goats (actually, I have heard of horses getting caught up in them too), but the small mesh has been great for us. I watched like a hawk the first few weeks I used them because I was worried about it too. What I do is hang it so that the long rope part that draws it closed is wrapped around the bar it is hung from (or over to the other side of a 6' dog kennel panel), so they can't get caught on that part. The mesh on these is really small, so I have never had any feet get into it. I think there is some risk with any type of feeder, but so far these have really worked for us. Plus, they slow down their eating so they stay busy longer = less bored goats causing trouble!
I do find that my horses eventually manage to rip holes in the mesh, but I have a percheron and a percheron/shire in with the Fjord, so they are very big and strong and break everything eventually. I don't know that it would happen with normal sized horses. So far, the goats are still using the original ones I bought them close to a year ago.
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12/12/12, 09:03 AM
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I have always been afraid of the keyhole feeders. What happens if a goat is eating and another goat comes and slams him/her from the side? We don't use the cattle style "tombstone" round bale feeders for the horses because I have heard horror stories about horses being injured that way. Is it safer for the goats because they are smaller or is this a risk with the keyhole feeders too? They seem like a great idea if they are safe.
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12/12/12, 10:22 AM
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Hello,
I real love the key hole feeders but do not have enough room in barn for key hole feeders. So this the hay racks my husband designed and builds. They work very well for use. I also have them in my calf hutches. Very little waste.Have been using these for 4 years.
Have a great day
Beth
http://www.mytophatfarm.com/tophatfarm/index.htm
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12/12/12, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Run Farm
I have always been afraid of the keyhole feeders. What happens if a goat is eating and another goat comes and slams him/her from the side?
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Usually the goats legs buckle and the fall with their head in the hole.
I know a lot of people who are afraid to use them but those in my picture have been there for 20 years and I've never had a goat seriously hurt from them.
Here is the thing with the keyholes.
In order to slow down waste the goats have to be able to raise their heads up to get into them. If they can get their heads in and out easy then they will put their head in, get a bite, and pull it out and waste it
Also in the bottom of my keyhole hay feeders I have a 1' board all the way around the bottom. That way they have to reach down in to get the hay.
If your keyhole goes all the way down to the hay then they will stick their noses thru the narrow part and pull out the hay rather than puttin their hay in.
If you fill a keyhole way up with hay there will be more waste than if you drop flat flakes in there they have to put their heads in and reach down to access.
Also if you have abcesses in your herd and make your keyholes out of rough cut lumber you are going to perpetuate abcesses because of splinters.
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12/12/12, 11:02 AM
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My keyholes are bolted to the wall now but used to be I had one on legs.
One evening I went to the barn and a goat had knocked it over with her head in it.
So I go up there and here is this toppled 3 keyhole with the lifeless body of a goat under it. I notice a pile of goat berries by her like she had been like that a long time.
I lifted it up and the goat was alive, she dusted herself off and ran to the door of the milking room.
Saanens. No drama.
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12/12/12, 11:59 AM
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The first two pictures are ones of my smaller hay feeder. The second two are of my alfalfa pellet feeders that sometimes I use for hay as well. I will try and find pictures of my larger hay feeder which is very similar in design to the first feeder.
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12/12/12, 11:20 PM
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You guys are awesome!!!
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12/13/12, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollowdweller
My keyholes are bolted to the wall now but used to be I had one on legs.
One evening I went to the barn and a goat had knocked it over with her head in it.
So I go up there and here is this toppled 3 keyhole with the lifeless body of a goat under it. I notice a pile of goat berries by her like she had been like that a long time.
I lifted it up and the goat was alive, she dusted herself off and ran to the door of the milking room.
Saanens. No drama. 
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WOW! That is scary...I'm glad she was ok!
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12/13/12, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Hat Farm
Hello,
I real love the key hole feeders but do not have enough room in barn for key hole feeders. So this the hay racks my husband designed and builds. They work very well for use. I also have them in my calf hutches. Very little waste.Have been using these for 4 years.
Have a great day
Beth
http://www.mytophatfarm.com/tophatfarm/index.htm
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What a beautiful place you have! and your goats too...Nice hay racks. They are in the welding cave on the website if anyone wants to go look.
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12/16/12, 01:17 PM
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I made these out of 2x4s and 1x4s. They are quick and easy and really cheap! Let me know if I should post plans?
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12/16/12, 02:31 PM
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12/21/12, 03:04 PM
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Here is a link to the thread I started a few years ago about the hay feeders I build myself. They work great. Please check out the thread at this link : Pictures of my hay feeders-Low waste Easy to build!
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12/21/12, 10:12 PM
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Louisa, VA
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Originally Posted by emanuelcs34
I also made these hay bags out of old jeans. fill and just clip to the fence. saves alot of wasted hay. I have to replace the strap occasionally from wear but have been using them for a year and have been very happy with them.
 I have made the holes smaller so they can only get their noses in now.
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Fantastic idea! What do you have criss-crossing the holes?
I'm using a purchased hay bag with a single hole ($14.99 at TSC), but would much rather repurpose some old jeans. I don't feel comfortable with the mesh bags; too afraid someone will get stuck, panic and break something.
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12/22/12, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Zilli
THIS!!!! is what I want!
I saw these for the first time many years ago and I've always thought they were awesome!
I do still have a few goats with horns, though, and kind of worry about whether or not that would be a problem.
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I too saw a great version of this the key holes cut into a plywood panel and fastened to a older manger .this keeps them from backing out with a mouthful of hay as of which mostly falls on the floor then the oats wont touch it.there are a few picures in a book called .the homesteders guide to small livestock by Jerome belanger lots of good info.and its ussally cheep on ebay. a horn friendly verison can be made buy simply making a larger opening at the top of the key which can be V shaped if you are not as talented with the saws all.
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