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10/05/12, 11:41 AM
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Hmmm...Says 96% accuracy with positive results, 97.8% with negative, so why then does it also say: "We recommend 5 consecutive tests for the animal whose insemination date is not known. If this test is performed for 5 days continuously then one negative result during this period will prove that the cow is not pregnant. Otherwise pregnancy is established."??
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10/05/12, 11:44 AM
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Did I miss something? Bovi Preg is for cows.
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Yes, I did. Here's the paragraph.
This kit also evaluates early pregnancy and suspected pregnancy in sheep and goat. Reproductive physiology of Cow, sheep and goat are almost same except their estrus and gestation periods. In ewe(sheep) and doe(goat) 98% accuracy for detecting non-pregnancy was achieved by using this test at day 18-21 days after mating and gives 97% accuracy of pregnancy, however embryonic death and other pathological condition may give some false positive cases.
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10/05/12, 03:47 PM
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Lol, that would be cool, but alas human pregnancy tests detect human chorionic gonadotropin.
Wondfo test strips are very cheap and sensitive....I may or may not be a serial tester when trying to conceive, so I can neither confirm nor deny that I bought 200 of them off of ebay on multiple occasions for under $5
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10/05/12, 05:30 PM
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Ok from my understanding human preg tests work on horses, I did one on a little mare that everyone swore was pregnant by looking at her, test said negative, a different vet did a test on her and she was negative. These tests I have been told do not work on goats or cows...
Also my understanding that your northern breeds like Saneen's, Alpine's are Seasonal breeders and your southern like nigi, nubi's, pygmy's are year round. Of course we really screw that up when we cross breed em...
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10/05/12, 07:58 PM
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Even for cows, I would think that Biotracking was more cost effective. It's $2.50 per sample for cows! There is a clinic *almost* close enough to drive to and, surely, even the USPS could have samples there the next day. Tail-bleeding is SUPER easy (with a chute). I, too, would like to see a more reliable, cost effective means of pregnancy detection in goats. I'd love my own ultrasound!
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10/05/12, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wintrrwolf
Also my understanding that your northern breeds like Saneen's, Alpine's are Seasonal breeders and your southern like nigi, nubi's, pygmy's are year round. Of course we really screw that up when we cross breed em...
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See, I *told* Cypress that she is an ALPINE, and therefore she was supposed to go into heat in FALL. I explained that she is a SEASONAL breeders, and her season is FALL, *not* April! And there isn't a grade goat in *her* pedigree since 1973!
Although Sequoia is pretty darn cute, he wasn't supposed to happen until NEXT year.
Cypress, at least is one Alpine that did not get the "seasonal breeder" memo. Then again, she is SO blonde, I am not surprised. She probably got the memo, and just forgot!
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10/05/12, 08:58 PM
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Goats. Rule breakers.
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10/05/12, 09:16 PM
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Anyway, I looked up the Canadian urine pregnancy test, and did some research on it.
It measures progesterone, which cows, goats, and sheep tend to have pretty much through most of their cycles. It is useful if you know the EXACT DAY your doe was bred (such as those of us who used A.I.), and you use the test exactly 18-22 days after that breeding.
Cows, goats, and sheep have a drop in progesterone shortly after they ovulate. Since the test measures progesterone, if you get a negative, you can be absolutely, positively SURE your goat is NOT pregnant.
But if you get a positive, then it could be that she is pregnant, or it could be that she has just hit a high in her cycle.
It could be useful for people who hand-breed or A.I., and have exact dates on breeding. Not so useful to people who run a buck with the herd.
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09/17/13, 07:07 PM
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Nigerians are a dairy breed and they go into heat all year long! I have 5 and every 21 +/- days year round.
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Dairy breeds are seasonal breeders.
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09/17/13, 08:11 PM
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Wow. Talk about resurrection of the dead... LOL!
As long as LadyH dredged this oldie up, has anyone gone with the Canadian preg checks?
I'm still using good ol' Biotracking.
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09/17/13, 10:40 PM
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Is it possible for Nigerians to go into heat every 21 days for 7 months and then NOT go into heat without being bred?
Two of mine are apparently bred for October kids but don't even look pregnant
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05/06/14, 03:50 PM
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Has anyone tried any of these alternative methods?
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05/06/14, 03:55 PM
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They don't work.
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05/06/14, 04:02 PM
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Alice I mean like the one where you get it from Canada?
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05/06/14, 05:37 PM
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This is a really old thread. I don't know if that Canadian company is still around. I use Biotracking.
Shipping urine to Canada? I don't think so.
You don't have to use special shipping for Biotracking.
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05/06/14, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
This is a really old thread. I don't know if that Canadian company is still around. I use Biotracking.
Shipping urine to Canada? I don't think so.
You don't have to use special shipping for Biotracking.
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Oh wow it is old! Not sure how I even ended up on this one!? I was just thinking milk/urine would be easier to get than blood
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05/06/14, 06:49 PM
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Since we started with Nigerians, I thought it was normal for all goats to go into heat year round! LOL. Ours do every three weeks or so.
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