Toltrazuril vs Cydectin?

passionfleur · #21 09/07/12, 07:53 AM

Oh and the toltrazuril is supposed to be coming in today.

ozark_jewels · #22 09/07/12, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by passionfleur

I do have loose minerals out at the moment too, but they don't seem to like either. I might change over to a non-goat mineral soon.

Good. What type do you have out(brand)?

With just two goats, you aren't going to see much mineral consumption most likely. They just nibble when they feel like it. Even with 30 head in the doe pasture, sometimes weeks will go by with almost no noticable consumption. Then suddenly they all start nibbling and its gone.

passionfleur · #23 09/07/12, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ozark_jewels

Good. What type do you have out(brand)?

With just two goats, you aren't going to see much mineral consumption most likely. They just nibble when they feel like it. Even with 30 head in the doe pasture, sometimes weeks will go by with almost no noticable consumption. Then suddenly they all start nibbling and its gone.

I'm giving them Manna Pro loose minerals and the block is by American Stockman. I got a small block (i think it was like a couple of dollars) to see if they liked it better than the loose, but they just won't eat any! I know a lot of people hate mineral blocks, and I was too keen on them either, but I figured that for a couple dollars it was worth a try?

passionfleur · #24 09/07/12, 11:19 AM

By the way:
I drenched them with the Toltrazuril! Hopefully it knocks the coccidia out of 'em.

RaeRaeMae · #25 09/19/13, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by passionfleur

When you refer to copper, do mean a copper bolus? I've heard others on the forum rave about it in comparison to loose minerals or mineral block.

I gave totrazuril to my 6mos old 60lb lamancha doe who has been scouring for 30 days . She has been on sulfa for 30 days. On the sulfa her stool was not formed but pasty a lot of the time. Now 48hrs after having this it is just running out of her. What do you reccomend? I have 4 others out of 15 (the 5 youngest) that have scoured off and on. The sulfa is not working like it did last yr. Also I was giving her enough for over 200lbs. She was getting 48cc morn and night sulfa for 60lbs bw. Could I put her on corid?

RaeRaeMae · #26 09/19/13, 06:47 AM

do you think copper bolus would help her?

Alice In TX/MO · #27 09/19/13, 07:02 AM

I think you should take her to the vet and get a diagnosis.

**mygoat** · #28 09/19/13, 09:32 AM

Sulfa for 30 days and no improvement - I'm sure it's not cocci unless you're seriously misdosing her. IN which case, you probably just made sure the coccidia you left behind are resistant to sulfa drugs.

You have a couple options. First, take her temp and evaluate her overall health. She should be a good weight, growthy (birth weight plus 10lbs per month of age for a dairy kid - so a 3 month old born at 8 lbs should be around 38lbs or more)

At this point, you can try mechanical control for her gut, in hopes that it is not bacterial infection and is just upset from being on antibiotics/antiprotozoal drugs for 30 days. Kaolin pectin, and lots of probiotics. Lower grain intake and increase hay/alfalfa pellet intake. If she's not used to alfalfa pellets, don't introduce them. Evaluate the diet and management to see if it could be feed or sanitation related.

You could take her poo and any others with clumpy/runny poo and do a fecal parasitology exam and if that's clean, send the poo to a lab to do a bacteria culture.

You could continue to guess and deworm them with a QUALITY dewormer and start them on an oral antibiotic to clear up a contagious organism such as E. coli and Salmonella, which are fairly common. (If you do this, I STRONGLY suggest putting them in a fresh pen so they don't just pick it back up again from the environment).