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CaliannG 08/26/12 04:55 PM

I want a 600lb goat....
 
With a punched-in, Roman nose and ears long enough to trip over! Oh, and lots of spots and blue eyes!


Oh, and NO ONE can accuse me of *pampering* my goats anymore, because I do not raise my goats in a "special" decorated and blessed goat house, or have my family out gathering CERTAIN leaves, plants, and grasses to make up the diet....and I have never once decorated my goats with stings of semi-precious beads!

nc_mtn 08/26/12 06:00 PM

Funny, I didn't know a horse and a goat could mate....

CaliannG 08/26/12 06:20 PM

Seems they have a "goat show" every year there. All sorts of competitions, including milk production, etc. But the big show is the Champion of SIZE, and those are some BIG GOATS!

The breed is from India, and is called a Jamunapari. Those roman noses and floppy ears on both Nubians and Boers? You can thank the Jamunapari hanging out in the woodpile.

Oh, but nothing beats the purebreds for sheer SIZE!

And I WANT some! ~ponders~ How much would it cost me to import a herd of Jamunapari from India, do ya think?

DH is talking with the Director of Ag and Livestock Sciences at the University of Faisalabad in Pakistan, asking questions about importing semen straws.

Donna1982 08/26/12 06:25 PM

Their faces scare me for some reason. Lol

andabigmac 08/26/12 06:28 PM

Holy Cow! Can you imagine the food bill?

CaliannG 08/26/12 06:33 PM

Donna, their faces are like that because, at least in Pakistan, they have been bred for that "punched in" look. The Indian ones have longer noses.

andabigmac: But think, you could RIDE them! And they are DUAL purpose, meat and milk! That's a LOT of meat!

CJBegins 08/26/12 06:53 PM

That is a triple purpose animal, ride, milk and meat. That big buck is as big as my 2 year old shetland/welsh pony and it's ears are as long as the bassett hounds. Wonder what kind of sound he makes?

CaliannG 08/26/12 07:05 PM

Baaaaa-ooom? :D

Alice In TX/MO 08/26/12 07:06 PM

I want some of those goat necklaces! Love the music, too.

Did a little googling, and their milk production is AWFULLY low for a goat that size! Peaks at only 8 pounds/day.

blujenes 08/26/12 07:08 PM

That thing's as big as a cow! Well, not quite, but imagine that huge goat during rut, with horns, now that's a fight I don't want to get into... ;)

CaliannG 08/26/12 07:11 PM

He has horns, blujenes. The Jamunapari have really short horns, though, that curl under like a sheep.

Another Indian breed, the Malwari, has horns that come out at an angle from their heads, straight, but they twist in a spiral.

~sighs~ India has over 20 breeds of goats. We have, like, 11 or 12. It simply isn't FAIR! :awh:

dragonjaze 08/26/12 07:56 PM

I'm in the "don't like the faces" camp, but WHEW, those are some BIG goats!!

collegeboundgal 08/26/12 08:03 PM

It took me awhile to figure it out, but I've got it!!! their faces (along with the beady little eyes) look EXACTLY like the big "queen" dragon on the movie "How to train your dragon"!!!
Im sure it's not just me, but does anyone else see these big boys with the huge bodies on there skinny little post legs and wonder how long they'll last? I'm guessing "not long"...

CaliannG 08/26/12 08:08 PM

~goes and watches the video again~ Hmmmm...the legs don't look out of proportion to the rest of the goat to me?

wolffeathers 08/26/12 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliannG (Post 6102467)
DH is talking with the Director of Ag and Livestock Sciences at the University of Faisalabad in Pakistan, asking questions about importing semen straws.

What would you use the semen straws on? Nubians, Boers, or Angus? ;)

CaliannG 08/26/12 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolffeathers (Post 6102876)
What would you use the semen straws on? Nubians, Boers, or Angus? ;)

:rotfl: :pound: :hysterical: :spinsmiley: :rotfl:

CaliannG 08/26/12 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO (Post 6102573)

Did a little googling, and their milk production is AWFULLY low for a goat that size! Peaks at only 8 pounds/day.

Part of that is management also, Alice. DH was talking with a guy in India who wanted to know what we feed our goats to get such high production, so DH explained our feed and mineral management to him. He was told that they don't HAVE pelleted feeds over there, they have browse, fruit and barley that they feed their animals. And what did he mean, "loose minerals and copper boluses"?

So take that average milk production with that knowledge. That "average" comes from goats that only get a bit of barley, maybe, with their browse, and NO other management.

I wonder how our goats would do on browse, some barley, and no minerals, supplements, wormers, or anything else?

Marshloft 08/26/12 10:10 PM

That ain't no goat,,, thats a cow/camel cross, and that nose has gotta go.

noeskimo 08/26/12 10:11 PM

In Texas, we call those steers.

CaliannG 08/26/12 10:26 PM

Okay, here are some pictures of Jamunapari kids. Oh come on! You can't tell me they aren't cute! Look at those EARS!

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...Jamunapari.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...aribleeyes.jpg

MaddieLynn 08/26/12 10:34 PM

Oh. My. Goodness. Box one up and send it to me NOW!

andabigmac 08/26/12 10:44 PM

Do your ears hang low?
Do they wobble too and fro?

I would play with those ears all danged day.

LoneStrChic23 08/26/12 10:50 PM

Err...... Sorry, I'm still not seeing it...... Not even in the babies. Creepy faces..... Don't like the dewlap going on in the front either...... The ears though, at least on the babies, are cute :)

Wonder how well they dress out?

Bonus, for folks like me who don't like horns, at least they are tiny & out of the way...

My 9 year old thinks they'd make awesome pack goats, but claims he wouldn't look at their faces if he was hiking with one :p

CaliannG 08/26/12 11:12 PM

Actually, some of that pronounced Roman nose isn't a nose at all, but a tuft of fur that grows there.

The numbers I have found say that they dress out at 43%.

where I want to 08/26/12 11:21 PM

I can't look at videos on my computer ( I wish I could see it..) But the baby pictures are scary to me too. Like a bad dream where things are really are distorted.
If you were near the goats when they shook their head, those ears could knock you out.

kasilofhome 08/26/12 11:29 PM

I am sold. Long ears got to me.

Marshloft 08/27/12 02:44 AM

I'm assuming their's a reason for them ears. God didn't create nothin for no reason.
If its human intervention,,, then surely you all can do better.
Lose the ears, and please do somethin with that nose.
I was gonna mention that you all could do better if its human intervention. But then I realized how us americans have totally destroyed the pigeons that have been brought across the pond. Hopefully,, you all won't be as destructive.
OK,, I'm a goatman wannabe, so sue me.
Just kidding on the suing me part, I aint got no money.
GH

KrisD 08/27/12 03:07 AM

If you get one I want one too. That thing is huge! The babies are cute!

SilverFlame819 08/27/12 03:44 AM

You say cute, I say hideous. Those poor babies!

Alice In TX/MO 08/27/12 07:07 AM

I'm thinking someone should have a farm with:

Lop ear bunnies
Basset hounds
Brahman cattle
Jamunapari goats

:D

Cliff 08/27/12 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliannG (Post 6102467)
Seems they have a "goat show" every year there. All sorts of competitions, including milk production, etc. But the big show is the Champion of SIZE, and those are some BIG GOATS!

The breed is from India, and is called a Jamunapari. Those roman noses and floppy ears on both Nubians and Boers? You can thank the Jamunapari hanging out in the woodpile.

Oh, but nothing beats the purebreds for sheer SIZE!

And I WANT some! ~ponders~ How much would it cost me to import a herd of Jamunapari from India, do ya think?

DH is talking with the Director of Ag and Livestock Sciences at the University of Faisalabad in Pakistan, asking questions about importing semen straws.

What would you impregnate with the semen? I'd be afraid the kids would be too big for even my biggest does.

Shayanna 08/27/12 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliannG (Post 6102907)
I wonder how our goats would do on browse, some barley, and no minerals, supplements, wormers, or anything else?

My husband and I were just talking about this. Brings you back to the old days, doesn't it? Goats and sheep and livestock never used to be raised on all of that stuff. Shepherds just rotated pastures and culled anything diseased. They didn't do bad did they?

Alice In TX/MO 08/27/12 08:33 AM

They didn't have the goats that we have now, bred for high production. It just depends on your goals for your herd. :)

wolffeathers 08/27/12 08:41 AM

Also, there is a difference between optimal condition and surviving.

When I googled Jamunapari, I saw a lot of goats that were "surviving" under their management practices.

Many animals can survive and reproduce in poor environments. Breed young, do the best they can on what they have and then die young. The animal as a species "survives" but the individual has a very short life span.

silverseeds 08/27/12 09:14 AM

I thought they looked kinda neat actually. But I like tiny goats myself.

Cliff 08/27/12 10:03 AM

Just imagine how much trouble a goat that size could cause :) I think I'd be scared to own one.

wolffeathers 08/27/12 10:04 AM

I want some. *tehe*

Immaculate Sublimity 08/27/12 10:09 AM

the Jamunapari on google images dont look even remotely as nice as the ones in the video... and I'd really have to wonder if that seriously undershot jaw has something to do with that... how do they even eat?!

LoneStrChic23 08/27/12 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immaculate Sublimity (Post 6103434)
the Jamunapari on google images dont look even remotely as nice as the ones in the video... and I'd really have to wonder if that seriously undershot jaw has something to do with that... how do they even eat?!

Hey, at least they aren't as bad as these goats:
Ugly Overload: Sock Puppet Goats

wintrrwolf 08/27/12 10:28 AM

Dang and I thought Pearl had some long ears...But she is way prettier


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