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Old 06/20/12, 07:39 AM
 
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I'm glad you didn't leave ht too. I know sometimes when people hurt us we just want to withdraw from everyone so nobody has a chance again but that's not you. I know because I have the "helper" type personality also.

I just went through something like this with my son. He too is a helper. People tend to take advantage of and abuse us if we let them. He's learning the painful lesson of discernment right now. His exact words to me last week were "Why do people want to hurt me?" I tried to immediately get him out of that mode of thinking because that can go to a very dark place. I reminded him that when you have our type personality that it's just a hazard you are exposed to. You can lessen the frequency by being careful and very observant but people will still get you sometimes. And I reminded him that usually the person isn't out to get you specifically, they are just messed up and selfish and pick the easiest way for them and you end up being a casualty. I pointed out the characteristics of the person he was having the problem with that would've alerted me to the risk of what ended up happening. I asked him if long term he'd rather continue to be a person who is willing and happy to help others or a bitter person who closes himself off from the world to avoid getting hurt. I got through to him and now he's looking at it as a learning experience thank goodness.

Unfortunately as society gets worse it gets harder to help people. People are so self centered these days many of them will throw you under the bus just to make themselves look better. Like I told my son please try not to let that change who you are. Just learn that there are some people you just can't help, and even if you are very careful this will still happen sometimes. Nature of the beast but you can't let it change who you are. You are a good and kind person and you did the right thing. Hopefully those people you helped will learn to be better someday.
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Old 06/20/12, 08:31 AM
 
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O.k. first off, yes this same thing has happened to me, many times actually. Yet I feel that God wants me to do this work and to work with the ignorant-not stupid. I feel that ignorant can be taught, stupid is just not workable. Most of my customers are first time goat or sheep owners, I weed out the stupid and cheap by simple referring them to the closest auction to buy cheap goats, I register almost every goat so that I can charge a bit more and keep up with them. I have written up many pages of information for my customers whom I do sell to and keep myself open to any questions or problems they may have once they buy from me.

Have you actually talked to these people and asked them why they are telling everyone that you told them to use the drug that made the goat sicker? They may be confused and don't remember who told them to use it, they may not understand what you did and why you did it...that is the stupid factor of the equation here. When a animal or child is sick and the adults in charge of the situation don't know what to do, they freeze up and everything becomes a huge mess in their minds. Then if the animal or God forbid, child actually dies, they don't want to be at blame and so the game of passing the blame begins and it usually begins with whomever doesn't have the degrees and makes the big bucks, no matter how bad a vet is, they rarely get caught when they make a bad decision. Few people understand what is going on and will trust a doctor or vet with every decision made. There very well may be nothing you can do to either defend yourself or to salvage a working relationship with these people but you can talk to them and slowly and calmly get more details about why they think the things they think about what happened. Notice I say talk slowly....it is important with the stupid to talk very slowly. I always say get to the bottom of things and work things out the best one can, if nothing else, you will feel better afterwards knowing that you had your say and also you will better understand where their head is at. JMO I am not a saint but I do believe that things happen for a reason and even though I may not understand it at the time, I do have faith that there is a higher power at work. Just do the best you can with whatever God sends your way and always know that if your heart and head are in a good place, then God will always be at your side. You are never alone.
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Old 06/20/12, 10:22 AM
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Keep in mind it's hearsay. No sense getting upset with someone without them having a chance to explain what actually happened.
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Old 06/20/12, 08:20 PM
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So glad you decided to stay with us, this forum needs all of us because we are all different & we all add our own little bit of what we know, experience, stories & pictures. It's like were an interent goat family & we would all miss you.

Those people sound like they need someone to bop them in the side of the head to wake them up. I'm so sorry you had to see your doe like that & it will probably always break your heart that they lied about you but you know the truth & that's all that really matters and people that really know you know you tell the truth!
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Old 06/21/12, 01:34 PM
 
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People who know you won't believe it unless they hear it from you. People who choose to believe the liars, are NOT worth your time.

I am with Olivia, call them out on it. She could be right. They could have gotten it all mixed up in their minds. Or they could be flat out lying for whatever reason. If that is the case, you are putting them on notice you know they are spreading lies. You can also make sure they understand that you are no longer available to them for help.

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Old 06/21/12, 01:55 PM
 
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The sad part is that I did verify from 3 different people what was going on. Apparently this is not the first time these people have done something like this....

Thank you all for your support and own stories. It makes it a lot easier to bear hearing others experiences
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Old 06/21/12, 08:35 PM
 
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If they have done this before, then no one who counts will believe them anyway!
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Old 06/22/12, 09:32 PM
 
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mpete, The other day when you asked me how my baby with white scours was doing, I really felt like I wasnt alone and that I had a friend. It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling and I appreciated it more than you can imagine. Dont you go....other nice people like me need you. Your friend, me
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Old 06/23/12, 01:52 AM
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Old 06/23/12, 06:18 AM
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mpete, I am SO glad you are still with us! Years ago, I sold a doe in milk to a woman who did not listen to or do one thing I'd advised her to do. Months later, (when I had to rescue the doe - by buying her back!) she was a walking skeleton with a flea-bitten, worn-out carpet for a coat. Earlier in the week, this woman referred to the doe as "That skinny old raggedy goat Loretta sold me." I was furious! She'd bought a prime goat from me, and ruined it through her stupidity and neglect!

Anyway, please do stay with your friends here, mpete!
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