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Old 06/19/12, 10:48 AM
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I'm sorry they betrayed you That just stinks and is so unfair! I sure wouldn't help them again. ((((hugs)))) Stay here by us!
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Old 06/19/12, 11:05 AM
 
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Hang in there. Sometimes we just have to stay at home and not look at how other people take care of or not care of their animals.
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Old 06/19/12, 11:35 AM
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What a mess! Some folks, you can't help them, and you can't shoot them!
I'm glad you couldn't stay away!
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Old 06/19/12, 11:57 AM
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I am glad you are on here. I am glad everyone is on here. We would be so dang lost if we hadn't gotten some of the advise we have from folks on here. There are many of us that appreciate those that take the time to try to help when we have questions. Likewise, in some of the areas such as sheep where I know a little more if someone asks I try to say what I do know that might help them. It is an awesome place to be a part of.
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Old 06/19/12, 12:00 PM
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You can't leave now...We have just established that I have a new strain of Nigerians, which we are referring to as Chihuahuas, and I'll need all the help I can get.
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Old 06/19/12, 12:20 PM
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People suck, this is why I like my goats and dogs so much. Even my cats, with their holier-than-thou attitude, are better than most people.

We know you are a good goat person and we don't give a fink what other people say, we know the truth.

As far as those people, sounds like you've spent enough time in life them, it's time to be done now. Remember, you can't fix stupid, no matter how hard you try and stupid can never take responsibility for their own actions and choices. Stupid always has to blame someone else. Sadly, you became their target.

*hugs* Don't let them get you down.
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Old 06/19/12, 12:45 PM
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We quit selling goats to regular folks..they all go to meat now. Why? Because of the things like you just described.
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Old 06/19/12, 12:46 PM
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How heartbreaking to be the brunt of such mistaken pettiness. And be very cautious with taking to heart thing from the rumor mill. There have been times when I heard a report of something I supposedly said or did, when I never never said or did it. It just got distorted or people assumed incorrectly.
You haven't said what happened to the poor doe.
I know it's hard to try to stop a train wreck then be blamed for it. All you can do is try to keep your distance from these people.

BTW I don't sell my goats either- for the reasons mentioned in other posts.

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Old 06/19/12, 12:54 PM
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I am so glad that you are back. STAY BACK!!

Whenever you try to "help" anyone you have to start by telling yourself "No good deed goes unpunished" Most of the time they will give you the praise if it works so they think that you can take the blame if it does not work - just because you showed up.

You did your best to help the doe - You can't fix stupid.
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Old 06/19/12, 01:35 PM
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You are a very sweet person for trying to help those people and their goats.

Some people will ask for help and instruction and then not listen.. and then usually wonder what went wrong or why their animals suffer.

I think next time these people ask for your advice or help, simply tell them to ask their vet and follow the vet's advice. Don't wade in because they'll drag you into their drama and eventual sorrow because they didn't listen in the first place.

I am all for helping people that want help and listen to advice given, I think I would distance myself from this family and draw closer to my own goats and people who follow a similar husbandry practice.

I am so sorry for all of it, please don't let it drive you away. I enjoy your input and presence here.
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Old 06/19/12, 01:57 PM
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I felt the same way recently, someone bugging me for advice, not listening then later telling me the goat died. I was so mad!! I vented here and was told to just not bother with her anymore, I have not. She has gotten the hint not to ask me anymore.

It is pretty rude of them to bad mouth you and I would just tell people they do not know the entire story and leave it at that.


Some people should just not have livestock.

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Old 06/19/12, 02:11 PM
 
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Karma is a ....well you know, a very bad girl. What comes around goes around. No action goes unanswered. Basically, hold your head up and don't worry about the petty people who use others for their own gain, they always prove themselves out.
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God bless you for your help-they don't appreciate your aid, but you KNOW the doe did.Sometimes, people suck.
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Please stay on here with us. I hope that no one from here was involved, but you know that you did the best that you could. I've had similar things happen to me, and I just have to go on, knowing that those who COUNT will see the truth. We would miss you terribly if you no longer stayed on as forum friends with us. ((((hugs))))
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Old 06/19/12, 04:49 PM
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The world is a better place when people like you keep trying to reach out despite the disappointments. You did good work, don't let one pair of bad apples get you down.
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Old 06/19/12, 09:43 PM
 
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This is when you send them a bill along these lines:

Mentoring 15.00 per hour
Fly repellent, b-Complex, gas reimbursement 50.00
Learning that ...... is not a true friend, and does not deserve me as a friend PRICELESS

I am reading a book about writing a poisonious letters, writing to someone to tell them off both in your face but you can't turn it back around on me, or subtlely but you know I am telling you off, while other are thinking you are paranoid if they were to read the same letter. I can be as sweet as pie and usually am but DO NOT get on my bad side fastest way there my kids!!
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Old 06/19/12, 09:54 PM
 
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wow. I really needed this. I have the "helper" personality, and I will drop everything to go help someone, but in recent months I've realized its been hurting my family because they have to take up the slack that I don't do while I am off "rescuing" someones screw up.

As far as I know, the doe is still alive. She will never be able to be bred. .... and she still has not had her feet taken care of... ;/ It makes me sad to see a very well bred doe purchased and only 4.5 months later look like that.... I know things get busy, I am far from perfect, but I try to rotate my health maintenance so its not so expensive or hard to do ... like do 1 pen 1 month, another in the next month, etc...

I know opinions differ from person to person, from farm to farm. I respect what information I can still learn from somebody (I learned so much at the fair) ... I have no problem saying, " I don't know" .... I hope I haven't ever misled anyone here. It just really bugs me that she is telling a flat out lie about me... It hurts in a place down deep in my soul. I have always been very proud of my honesty. Always considered I had good integrity, I know I go to the Lord with as honest of a life that I can give myself.

I really appreciate everything you all have said. I really don't think the words can truly express how I feel, but THANK YOU

I gotta go milk my girls, but when I can sit back down I will tell you what I found out at fair!
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Old 06/19/12, 10:07 PM
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Look forward to seeing what you found at the fair.
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Old 06/20/12, 01:27 AM
 
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Glad you're feeling a little better

Now. People who know you will know you didn't give that advice, anyone who believes it doesn't need to make you neglect your family to try helping them anyway, and you made a difference to the DOE who was the only one who apparently is worth a darn at that place anyway.

I know it hurts and I think everyone winds up there on occasion. People who spread talk like that hang out with the ones who will soon be spreading the same type of thing about them, so rest assured what went around will come around soon.
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Old 06/20/12, 07:04 AM
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I hope I haven't ever misled anyone here. It just really bugs me that she is telling a flat out lie about me... It hurts in a place down deep in my soul. I have always been very proud of my honesty. Always considered I had good integrity, I know I go to the Lord with as honest of a life that I can give myself.

I really appreciate everything you all have said. I really don't think the words can truly express how I feel, but THANK YOU
Proverbs 18:8 The words of a talebearer are as wounds, and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly.

God knows. You keep walking in and with integrity!
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