Two kids on the ground, how long can they go without sucking?

When my wife gets home this eveing we plan on milking out that one side she wont let them touch. Went out there this morning and the one side was empty and the other side is fully engorged. She still wont let them touch that side.

She is acting strange still She seems real tired, laying down and making a short moaning noise. She still has a bloody discharge. We tried washing her back end since it is really nasty and flies are all over her. Didnt seemt o do much good.

Going to call the vet here in a bit and see which antibiotic he reccomends and see about getting some of that CMPK, maybe she has some afterbirth stuck in her.

The bloody discharge is normal after kidding for a few weeks. I'd be concerned about her laying down & moaning. I think I'd tell the vet what she's doing & how she's acting. Might want to have him come out & take a look at her to make sure everything is Ok & she's cleaned out good.

Just went out a milked that engorged side. It looked ready to pop. She is still laying down and moaning. She has pushed out some small pieces of afterbirth. I milked out that side and washed her bag down with warm water with iodine in it. Also gave her 30ml of an oral nutrint drench and brought her some water and she was drinking. She was very thirsty, had to refill the bowl for her.

Calling the vet now.

Just called the vets office, she said the vet was busy so talked to his assistant. She said the CMPK injection was nothing but calcium so unless she was low on calcium it wouldnt do anything. She said some oxytocin might help and baytril for antibiotics, but basically just wanted me to bring them up there. Said the vet wasnt doing farm calls.

I knew the CMPK was basically just calcium but if they are low on calcium it sometimes takes them longer to pass the after birth.

Will the vet just let you pick up the Oxytocin & Baytril for her without bringing her in? If so that's what I would do.

Just got back from the vet. Had to take her in. Her temperature is 106, He believes it is either a uterin infection from stuff left in there or she has a tear inside and it is letting air into her abdomen. He injected antibiotics directly into her uterus with a long tube. gave her injections of atibiotic, anti-inflammatory and oxytocin.

She just wants to lay down, its hard to make her walk, she was panting, we gave her cool water and she drank a good amount. He said he didnt want to put his hand inside her as it might cause more harm but said he did not feel a stuck kid pressing all over her abdomen. He said the milk on both sides looks good so doesnt think it was mastitis, Said if it gets over engorged again to milk it out again and bottle feed it to the goats.

He really didnt seem too optimistic on her outlook. He said she might perk up from the meds he gave her or she could die. Stopped and got some goat nipples for feeding the babies just in case. When we got home we held her and let both kids suck both sides for about 5-10 minutes. Then she just laid down, wouldnt stand anymore.

We will just hope for the best. This is a our oldest female, mother to another one of our does and grandmother to the twin boys that are around 4 months old now. She is also the friendliest of them all and was very keen on me over everyone else.

Oh no I am so sorry nathan104 . I hope she pulls through for you guys, I hate it when a doe goes down period but when they have kids on them I feel even worse.

Justine

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She is looking real bad. Just laying there breathing fast. We moved all three into the shade and she wouldnt even stand up to walk. She isnt interested in feed, but is drinking a little. Havent seen her urinate or poop in a while. Im expecting to have to start feeding the kids in the morning. Not sure if she will still be alive then but dont think she is producing much milk anymore and she doesnt want them to suck. I hate this.

I am so sorry. I was hoping for a happier outcome.

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I'm sorry Sending you lots of healing vibes and hugs and prayers that she makes the turn and gets better

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Goats can be surprisingly resilient. I had one go down after a C section. She was down for weeks, but eventually she did recover. Actually....there was another one who had a retained placenta who did that, too. She also recovered after a number of weeks...and I hope yours does as well.

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Hang in there. I hope she gets over this. ((((hugs))))

We mixed up some milk replacer. One of them drink for about 30 seconds and the other wanted nothing to do with it. That one was drinking water out of the pail though. Tried the milk in a bowl but it still didnt want it. She will not let either of them nurse. If they try, she kicks or flops over. She doesnt seemt o be able to get up. Im hoping for the best but expecting bad news when I go out in the morning.

We have another doe who is the older ones daughter that is still in milk from her twins that are 4 months old now. She still lets them nurse. Any way we could get her to accept them and viceversa? We held her and tried to get the two little doelings to nurse from her but none of them seemed to pleased that we were trying it.

Oh, this is so sad. I'll keep my fingers crossed that she comes through this.

Did she have a difficult delivery? I'm sorry if I missed anything you might have posted about it.

Last year, my doe had a difficult time and I ended up having to run her into the vet late at night with her baby's head hanging out of her back end.

It took two of them to push the baby back in and get things straightened out in order to deliver a live, healthy baby.

I gave her a round of antibiotics......just in case.

I know hindsight is 20-20, but I wonder, for future reference, a round of antibiotics might not be a good idea at the first sign of trouble.

Well, she died sometime last night. I really hate it. She was my buddy. I hate that she was hurting. We were gone when she had them, so not sure if it was difficult. Now we have two 3 day old doelings to bottle feed. Sure didnt plan on that.

Have never raised bottle goats. Anything we should know?

So sorry nathan.

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