Neurological disease in doeling

Zilli · #21 04/16/12, 07:54 PM

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Tabgirl · #22 04/16/12, 08:35 PM

So sorry!!! After all we go through to get them into this world it's hard to lose them! Hugs!!

DamnearaFarm · #23 04/16/12, 08:39 PM

Aw, Rechelle.

I'm so sorry.
<<<hugs>>> to you and the girls.

Alice In TX/MO · #24 04/16/12, 08:54 PM

I hate that she is gone and we don't know why.

Wish we'd been able to help more!

Alice

Rechellef · #25 04/16/12, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

I'm so sorry. Could it possibly have been Floppy Kid Syndrome gone too far to save? I've never lost one, but have heard of others who have. If you start seeing anyone else get weak in the legs, start in with the baking soda. :-(

Nah - she had BoSe at birth, no navel ill, and had all the colostrum the first couple of days too. My vet and I suspect Goat Polio or Listeriosis. A friend of mine who raises Boers said she had a buckling at a week old with Literiosis, but she managed to save him with Pen and Thiamine in constant doses. My vet also thoroughly checked her disbudding area and there was no sign of puncture or reason to believe that the iron went too far. Sometimes we never know.

She was the friendliest of the babies from my favorite doe. Latte - her mom is super sweet, and for a first freshener a good producer so far with perfect stand manners. Latte keeps coming to and eagerly looks to me as to ask where her baby is. It just kills me. Of course we have one bottle Nubian doeling, so maybe she'll adopt her.

Minelson · #26 04/16/12, 08:58 PM

I'm so very sorry

It just hurts so much

(((((hugs)))))

Jyllie63 · #27 04/16/12, 09:49 PM

I'm so sorry

. It really does hurt to lose them

Donna1982 · #28 04/16/12, 10:04 PM

So sorry for your loss. It's hard when they die even more when you don't know why.

**mygoat** · #29 04/16/12, 10:13 PM

Dang!

I lost one to listeria this year. Vets all said LA200 1x per day, despite my research saying that ideal treatment is big doses of penicillin every 6 hrs - at that rate it goes through the blood-brain barrier apparently. Either way, survivablity of brain-form listeria is only 30% or so.

You did all you could. Always sucks to loose a doeling.

Ranger · #30 04/17/12, 05:17 AM

I'm so sorry that you lost your girl.

Backfourty,MI. · #31 04/17/12, 05:56 AM

I am so sorry for your loss, it sucks when we loose one for any reason & you were doing everything you could makes it even harder. Hugs.

chamoisee · #32 04/18/12, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rechellef

Nah - she had BoSe at birth, no navel ill, and had all the colostrum the first couple of days too. My vet and I suspect Goat Polio or Listeriosis.

Floppy Kid Syndrome isn't the same thing as White Muscle Disease, which can be prevented by Bo-Se. Floppy Kid makes them floppy and weak, White Muscle is a selenium deficiency and makes them stiff. The beauty of Floppy Kid syndrome, though, is that if you catch it within the first 12 hours or so, it is almost always curable with just baking soda and assistance in feeding. There were years when I had no FKS and years when it seemed like half the kid crop got it.

Here is more info on it:FKS - Floppy Kid Syndrome - GOATWORLD.COM

Floppy Kid Syndrome - Dairy Goat Care and Management

And then, if it isn't Floppy Kid syndrome, putting half a teaspoon of baking soda in the kid's mouth will not have harmed it, is cheap and easy. I usually only had to do it twice per kid, unless it was a bad case, then maybe 3-4 times....

Rechellef · #33 04/18/12, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

Floppy Kid Syndrome isn't the same thing as White Muscle Disease, which can be prevented by Bo-Se. Floppy Kid makes them floppy and weak, White Muscle is a selenium deficiency and makes them stiff. The beauty of Floppy Kid syndrome, though, is that if you catch it within the first 12 hours or so, it is almost always curable with just baking soda and assistance in feeding. There were years when I had no FKS and years when it seemed like half the kid crop got it.

Here is more info on it:FKS - Floppy Kid Syndrome - GOATWORLD.COM

Floppy Kid Syndrome - Dairy Goat Care and Management

And then, if it isn't Floppy Kid syndrome, putting half a teaspoon of baking soda in the kid's mouth will not have harmed it, is cheap and easy. I usually only had to do it twice per kid, unless it was a bad case, then maybe 3-4 times....

Except for a fever, she showed no signs of FKS. She was having enormous seizures so it was definitely neurological.

FrogTacos · #34 04/18/12, 07:27 AM

Just wanted to put out an FYI on my experience with Polio. In addition to any B complex shots you give, you can get straight B1 from the vitamin section in Walmart for about $5 a bottle. Each tablet is 250mg of Thiamine. Very easy to crush the pills, add a bit of water, and drench the goat with. When I had a doe with it, I crushed 5 and drenched her 2 different times, then crushed 10 for her 3rd dose. She came back from the full on convulsions stage of it, and is fine today, happily nursing her month old doelings. She had been displaying symptoms for 2 days but I didn't recognize it for what it was or her treatment would have started much sooner, and she probably wouldn't have progressed as far as she did. Mind you, this is a 3 yr old doe that was in excellent health and physical condition.

The bad news is when a baby gets Polio, they decline exceedingly fast, almost too fast to be caught in time to save them.

Having a bottle of them pills, already crushed - if you don't have straight Thiamine injection available - can save the goat in question.

So very sorry about the loss of your baby, I recently lost one too. Its very hard.

RedSonja · #35 04/18/12, 08:58 AM

So very sorry you lost her.

*hugs* as wanted/needed.

-Sonja

valcwby01 · #36 04/18/12, 10:19 AM

SO VERY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS!!!
I have lost angora kids with the EXACT SAME SYMPTOMS and have yet to have saved one. If you find the culprit, PLEASE SHARE IT!!! I even tried the thiamine pills trick. No success with the kids. I really don't know what it would be. I have lost a couple of adults to VERY similar symptoms, also.