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Old 04/15/12, 09:02 AM
 
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Personally, I think we ARE seeing the impact of what we have done to our foods in the increase in autism and other problems in children.
The vast majority of genetic modifications are one of two things, glyphosate (roundup) resistance, and Bt expression (primarily in the green parts) to ward off some pests. Compared to all the weird chemical preservatives and colorings that are in our food in much much higher concentrations, I think the modified grains is an extremely minor issue.
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Old 04/15/12, 09:30 AM
 
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The vast majority of genetic modifications are one of two things, glyphosate (roundup) resistance, and Bt expression (primarily in the green parts) to ward off some pests. Compared to all the weird chemical preservatives and colorings that are in our food in much much higher concentrations, I think the modified grains is an extremely minor issue.
Not so minor, when you consider the cumulative effects of many "minor" things.
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The big thing to watch for now might be GMO Alfalfa..there are AMERICAN studies on how the glyphosate (round-up) affected a huge cattle herd.

Dr. Huber

If this alfalfa can adversely affect cattle..I have no problem thinking that it will affect goats.

And for those of us silly enough to think there might be something bad occurring in humans from all this here a link to the urine samples of Germans My guess is that U.S. citizens will test higher..because we use more of the junk.

But, I don't have a problem with people not believing it. That's just the way it is in a debate on anything. For me, I believe the studies..but then I WORKED FOR MONSANTO..I canned their LASSO and four out of six women that I worked for had female problems ranging from cancer to infertility. I'm sure it wasn't Monsanto or Lasso's fault. It was merely coincidence.
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There is a local hay grower from whom I will NOT be purchasing b/c he is switching over to GMO alfalfa.

What strikes me as odd is the fact that GMO crops actually produce LESS. People just want to be able to spray glyphosate and not deal with the weeds.

Frankly, I think the weeds serve a purpose we may not fully grasp. Further, all the new breeds of veg/hay/grain are LESS nutritious since they've been developed for high production at the cost of nutrient density.

Where are we going? Why are we in this handbasket?
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This is a video about Monsanto and GMO The whole version is very interesting and is worth getting. Here is a little bit about it. This is a topic that I can not stay away from and concerns all of us.

The Whole Truth About Monsanto
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Old 04/16/12, 10:51 AM
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Oh, well, as long as there aren't THAT many...

Srsly?

How many is too many? Unless we know the long-term impact, one is too many IMO.

The main GMO crops are corn , soybeans and cotton.

How many "wild" varieties of of those do you know of?
Are there any examples of GMO crops crosspollinating "wild" species?
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Old 04/16/12, 11:06 AM
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Huber is a joke in the scientific community.

His studies make suppostiions with nothing to back them, and he provides no real data to validate his work

When people like him are the ones most cited for "proof", it's easy to see it's mostly hysteria
Purdue University discredits own professor : Environmentalist

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The issues and claims have been brought forward by Dr. Don Huber, retired professor of Plant Pathology at Purdue University. Recently, Purdue University faculty members have responded to these claims and using peer-reviewed science, have refuted the statements made by Dr. Huber.
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To each their own..I'm going with the people that do NOT have money in the game.
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Old 04/16/12, 01:52 PM
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To each their own..I'm going with the people that do NOT have money in the game.
Then why not believe the Universities that refuted Huber's wild claims?
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Old 04/16/12, 02:03 PM
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What strikes me as odd is the fact that GMO crops actually produce LESS
LOL, no they don't
The yeilds are as good or better than any other varieties

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GM crops have – at least in the beginning – not been developed to increase yield per se (the second generation of GM soybean will do this. The first GM crop generation has been conceived to efficiently reduce yield losses to weeds and insects - and thus enhance the economic situation of the farmers, and these promises have been fulfilled properly and with evident success. UCS misleads the reader by not distinguishing those two views of yield.
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The premise of the report is that GM crops are a bad means to achieve global agricultural
sustainability simply because they have not affected intrinsic yield
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Surprisingly, while the report
mentions ‘wealth of data on yield under real-world conditions’ it fails to use these data.
The report focuses on corn and soybean, omitting the extensive data available from cotton and canola.
Finally, the report focuses on the US, omitting the results from the rest of world. Collectively,
these omissions in the UCS report serve to distort the actual situation.”
Public Research and Regulation Initiative - Do GM crops fail to produce more yield?
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Old 04/16/12, 07:29 PM
 
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I don't feed corn.
So no cob? What do you use for grain? Oats, barley, boss?
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