Just be sure if you bring a bigger buck onto the place that he never breeds the pygmy doe. Pygmy does have a hard enough time having little babies. And you can't get your hand in there to help without injuring them. Btdt.

Also, for meat goats I personally prefer kiko to boer by far. They are much more hardy - don't need the coddling that boers always seem to. And quieter.

Poor Nubians... Getting bad-mouthed on the basis of a few bad eggs...

Yeah was gonna say we've never had the loud nubian problem either, and our herd is almost all nubian. Last spring we did have a doe born who hollered all the time but she grew out of it and now doesn't make a peep. She was just troublesome in general though, don't think it was necessarily bc she's nubian. I literally saved her life 4 times because of the situations she got herself into. Good thing she had a good yelling voice I guess lol. She'd get stuck somehow and yell loudly and repeatedly for help.

Goats are like children in that way, aren't they? There are the "Oh, I'm just bored so I'll vocalize" calls, and then there are the "HOOOMANZ!!! GET OUT HERE QUICK!!!" calls that make us drop everything and come a-runnin'!

Everyone talks about the Nubes being loud, but I've never been around Nubes that were screamers. Boer bottle kids, on the other hand... :flame: The noise is more than I can bear.

we also now have "quiet" in the barnyard after selling our first and last Nubian doe's. Loved them, wanted some for years, but was worried about their reputation for being talkative.

The breeder we bought them from told us she breeds for quiet and while we were at her place, never heard a peep out of the large herd. It was a whole nother story when we got them here though, yikes!

Our other gals hated them, beat the tar out of them at every chance, and we felt sorry for them. We figured after 9 month's our other goats would have accepted them, but they never did. So between nonstop screaming and getting bullied constantly, we felt it was right for all involved to find them a new good home.

we just added 3 Saanen does to our herd after selling our Nubians last week, and our girls are all calm, content and quiet.
Life is good.

I just sold my screamer. At 4 months she did nothing but scream! She was a bottle baby and when she was weaned the herd would not accept her. They nearly killed her. I fed her separate from the herd so she wouldn't starve. After eating she would stand by the fence and scream! She would not go browse with the others. Finally I gave up and sent her packing.